Re: [RFC PATCH 09/11] kallsyms: hide layout and expose seed

Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06T17:51:34Z

On Thu, 2020-02-06 at 04:32 -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 02:39:48PM -0800, Kristen Carlson Accardi
> wrote:
> > To support finer grained kaslr (fgkaslr), we need to make a couple
> > changes
> > to kallsyms. Firstly, we need to hide our sorted list of symbols,
> > since
> > this will give away our new layout. Secondly, we will export the
> > seed used
> > for randomizing the layout so that it can be used to make a
> > particular
> > layout persist across boots for debug purposes.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>
> > ---
> > kernel/kallsyms.c | 30 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > 1 file changed, 29 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/kallsyms.c b/kernel/kallsyms.c
> > index 136ce049c4ad..432b13a3a033 100644
> > --- a/kernel/kallsyms.c
> > +++ b/kernel/kallsyms.c
> > @@ -698,6 +698,21 @@ const char *kdb_walk_kallsyms(loff_t *pos)
> > }
> > #endif /* CONFIG_KGDB_KDB */
> >
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_FG_KASLR
> > +extern const u64 fgkaslr_seed[] __weak;
> > +
> > +static int proc_fgkaslr_show(struct seq_file *m, void *v)
> > +{
> > + seq_printf(m, "%llx\n", fgkaslr_seed[0]);
> > + seq_printf(m, "%llx\n", fgkaslr_seed[1]);
> > + seq_printf(m, "%llx\n", fgkaslr_seed[2]);
> > + seq_printf(m, "%llx\n", fgkaslr_seed[3]);
> > + return 0;
> > +}
> > +#else
> > +static inline int proc_fgkaslr_show(struct seq_file *m, void *v) {
> > return 0; }
> > +#endif
> > +
>
> I'd like to put the fgkaslr seed exposure behind a separate DEBUG
> config, since it shouldn't be normally exposed. As such, its
> infrastructure should be likely extracted from this and the main
> fgkaslr
> patches and added back separately (and maybe it will entirely vanish
> once the RNG is switched to ChaCha20).

OK, sounds reasonable to me.

>
> > static const struct file_operations kallsyms_operations = {
> > .open = kallsyms_open,
> > .read = seq_read,
> > @@ -707,7 +722,20 @@ static const struct file_operations
> > kallsyms_operations = {
> >
> > static int __init kallsyms_init(void)
> > {
> > - proc_create("kallsyms", 0444, NULL, &kallsyms_operations);
> > + /*
> > + * When fine grained kaslr is enabled, we don't want to
> > + * print out the symbols even with zero pointers because
> > + * this reveals the randomization order. If fg kaslr is
> > + * enabled, make kallsyms available only to privileged
> > + * users.
> > + */
> > + if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_FG_KASLR))
> > + proc_create("kallsyms", 0444, NULL,
> > &kallsyms_operations);
> > + else {
> > + proc_create_single("fgkaslr_seed", 0400, NULL,
> > + proc_fgkaslr_show);
> > + proc_create("kallsyms", 0400, NULL,
> > &kallsyms_operations);
> > + }
> > return 0;
> > }
> > device_initcall(kallsyms_init);
> > --
> > 2.24.1
>
> In the past, making kallsyms entirely unreadable seemed to break
> weird
> stuff in userspace. How about having an alternative view that just
> contains a alphanumeric sort of the symbol names (and they will
> continue
> to have zeroed addresses for unprivileged users)?
>
> Or perhaps we wait to hear about this causing a problem, and deal
> with
> it then? :)
>

Yeah - I don't know what people want here. Clearly, we can't leave
kallsyms the way it is. Removing it entirely is a pretty fast way to
figure out how people use it though :).