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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@jic23.retrosnub.co.uk>
Cc: SF Markus Elfring <elfring@users.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Hartmut Knaack <knaack.h@gmx.de>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	Peter Meerwald-Stadler <pmeerw@pmeerw.net>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Software evolution around “checkpatch.pl”?
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 17:42:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1518284577.16865.8.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180210155734.708d01b6@archlinux>

On Sat, 2018-02-10 at 15:57 +0000, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 06:59:43 -0800
> Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 2018-02-10 at 14:53 +0000, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > > While it would be great to improve checkpatches false
> > > positive rate, it's very nature as a string matcher makes
> > > this hard.  
> > 
> > true.
> > 
> > what are the false positives you see?
> > 
> 
> This particular case is only 'sort of' a false positive
> in the warning that a message printed on a memory allocation
> failure 'may' not add any information over the generic case.

Right.  So it's not a 'false positive' at all.
Are there any actual 'false positives' you know of?

> Very hard to judge on whether it is useful to know more than
> an allocation failed somewhere or not.
> 
> Message makes this clear:
> > “WARNING: Possible unnecessary 'out of memory' message”
> > (from the script “checkpatch.pl”)  
> 
> We also have the balance between any changes to existing code
> adding 'some' maintenance overhead vs changing this stuff
> in a new driver - which is what checkpatch is really intended
> for.

There's almost zero maintenance overhead here.
The time it takes for the back and forth
replies is likely larger.

> So I think checkpatch is striking the right balance here in
> how it warns.  Obviously if it could assess the text
> and come to an informed decision that would be great but
> we are some way from that ;)

The 'informed' bit is difficult as it is mostly
a political problem.

This particular message really is unnecessary as
the generic dump_stack on any normal allocation
(ie: without __GFP_WARN) already emits location
specific information.

Removing these messages can help make the kernel
image smaller and thereby help make these OOM
messages a tiny bit less likely.

I just wish Markus would improve his consistently
terrible commit messages that just restate the
action being done and detail _why_ a particular
thing _should_ be done.

His acceptance rate would improve as many of these
back and forth replies for what trivialities he
posts as patches would be minimized.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-10 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-31 21:26 [PATCH] hid-sensor-accel-3d: Delete an error message for a failed memory allocation in hid_accel_3d_ SF Markus Elfring
2018-02-04 11:23 ` [PATCH] hid-sensor-accel-3d: Delete an error message for a failed memory allocation in hid_accel Jonathan Cameron
2018-02-05 18:26   ` hid-sensor-accel-3d: Delete an error message for a failed memory allocation in hid_accel_3d_prob SF Markus Elfring
2018-02-05 21:51     ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-02-06  8:45       ` Software evolution around “checkpatch.pl”? SF Markus Elfring
2018-02-10 14:53         ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-02-10 14:59           ` Joe Perches
2018-02-10 15:57             ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-02-10 17:42               ` Joe Perches [this message]
2018-02-10 18:30                 ` SF Markus Elfring

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