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From: Frans Pop <elendil-EIBgga6/0yRmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List
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	<kernel-testers-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Siddha,
	Suresh B"
	<suresh.b.siddha-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Pallipadi,
	Venkatesh"
	<venkatesh.pallipadi-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug #13667] drm: display arifacts when X.Org is stopped
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 03:28:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200907090328.53643.elendil@planet.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21d7e9970907081642l3ef6df5blde31df656cd74432-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Thursday 09 July 2009, Dave Airlie wrote:
> > [1] I'd even go so far as to feel it should be a standard test case
> > for video driver developers, given that this is the third time it's
> > shown regressions :-) For the third case the bug was in the X.Org
> > i830 driver: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14481.
>
> It might surprise you to learn this, but vesafb has never been
> considered supportable by the X.org community, and you'll notice not
> very many distros ship with it enabled, it breaks suspend/resume on
> many machines for example.

I beg to disagree.
- Debian does have it enabled by default.
- I have always used it on all my machines without any problems.
- Both my laptops and my desktop suspend and resume perfectly with vesafb
  and X.Org.
- Jesse Barnes seems to disagree with you. To quote from the BR cited
  above (comment #11): "and you're right, making things work with vesafb
  isn't unreasonable".

I do know intelfb is considered to be terminally broken, but have always 
understood the use of vesafb to be accepted.

> As I said having two drivers thinking they own the GPU is a recipe for
> total disaster and thats why we've designed the new KMS code so you can
> get cool bootup logos and avoid the insanity dance.

Yes, and I really welcome the great progress being made there. But for me 
it's not yet an option as I run Debian stable on these boxes.

> However we shall endeavour to fix this issues as it may be systemic of
> something else going wrong in the new PAT/AGP code.

Great. Thanks in advance, I do appreciate it.

BTW, today I noticed another regression, but I have not yet looked into it 
deeply. When I suspend I normally see at least some console messages from 
the suspend procedure on the framebuffer console, but with .31-rc2 I only 
see a cursor. It does not really affect the suspend/resume.
Could possibly be related. Will investigate further.

Cheers,
FJP

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-09  1:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-06 23:42 2.6.31-rc2: Reported regressions from 2.6.30 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:42 ` [Bug #13522] BUG: scheduling while atomic Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-07 16:27   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2009-07-07 20:35     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13652] scheduling while atomic: pptpgw Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13650] Problem with alloc_arch_preferred_bootmem() on powerpc Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-08 23:12   ` Sean MacLennan
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13657] Linux-2.6.31-rc1 Fails To Recognize Some USB Disks Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-15  7:42   ` Tarkan Erimer
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13645] NULL pointer dereference at (null) (level2_spare_pgt) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13643] Touchpad lost synchronization after resume from suspend to RAM Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13656] 2.6.31-rc1 crashes randomly on my Machine Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13659] iwlagn (4965): no wireless due to RFKILL problem Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-07 19:28   ` Frans Pop
     [not found]     ` <200907072128.14131.elendil-EIBgga6/0yRmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-07 20:36       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13661] warning in smp_call_function_single while S2R Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13665] commit 69c854817566 causes OOMs Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-07  4:04   ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-07  4:25     ` Gene Heskett
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13666] WARNING: at mm/page_alloc.c:1743 __alloc_pages_nodemask Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-07  4:23   ` David Rientjes
     [not found]     ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.0907062101330.31794-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-07  9:39       ` Mel Gorman
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13667] drm: display arifacts when X.Org is stopped Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-08  0:32   ` Frans Pop
     [not found]     ` <200907080232.04551.elendil-EIBgga6/0yRmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-08  2:50       ` Dave Airlie
     [not found]         ` <21d7e9970907071950n27979df6j44444edd8528a598-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-08  5:00           ` Frans Pop
     [not found]             ` <200907080700.33120.elendil-EIBgga6/0yRmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-08 23:42               ` Dave Airlie
     [not found]                 ` <21d7e9970907081642l3ef6df5blde31df656cd74432-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-09  1:28                   ` Frans Pop [this message]
2009-07-09 17:09                     ` Jesse Barnes
     [not found]                     ` <200907090328.53643.elendil-EIBgga6/0yRmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-25 16:33                       ` Frans Pop
     [not found]                         ` <200907251833.42598.elendil-EIBgga6/0yRmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-30 10:40                           ` Dave Airlie
     [not found]                             ` <21d7e9970907300340t79e063e1n18cdba11538c2fdc-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-30 11:40                               ` Frans Pop
     [not found]                                 ` <200907301341.01693.elendil-EIBgga6/0yRmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-01  2:28                                   ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
     [not found]                                     ` <7E82351C108FA840AB1866AC776AEC466D66A552-osO9UTpF0URqS6EAlXoojrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-01  7:02                                       ` Frans Pop
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13690] nodes_clear cause hugepage unusable on non-NUMA machine Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-07  0:06   ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]     ` <4A529180.7090104-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-07 11:14       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13673] HIGHMEM64G causes hang in PCI init on 32-bit x86 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-07  9:18   ` Mikael Pettersson
     [not found]     ` <19027.4815.420637.375450-tgku4HJDRZih8lFjZTKsyTAV6s6igYVG@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-07 11:14       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13700] usb error flood in dmesg, makes kde use plenty of cpu - bisected Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13727] Cannot Recognize Empty DVD Media Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-15  7:19   ` Tarkan Erimer
     [not found]     ` <4A5D82EA.1070002-AMZSHK9Z0TXlajqSnzHT9w@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-15 17:53       ` Maciej Rutecki
2009-07-15 17:56       ` Maciej Rutecki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13716] The AIC-7892P controller does not work any more Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13728] 2.6.31-rc2 soft lockups, RPC-related Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-11  0:29   ` Paul Collins
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13726] fio sync read 4k block size 35% regression Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-07  6:06   ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-07-07 10:09     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-10  6:37     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-10  7:41       ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-07-10  8:17         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-13  2:51           ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-07-13  7:27             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13729] kernel BUG at fs/notify/notification.c:93! Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13730] hitting lockdep limits Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13731] Inconsistent {IN-RECLAIM_FS-W} -> {RECLAIM_FS-ON-W} usage Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13733] 2.6.31-rc2: irq 16: nobody cared Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13732] tty layer instabilities Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-06 23:49 ` [Bug #13734] regression in 2.6.31-rcX since commit a1091aa Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-07  1:06   ` Larry Finger
     [not found]     ` <4A529F97.9080206-tQ5ms3gMjBLk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-07 11:19       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-07  1:25 ` 2.6.31-rc2: Reported regressions from 2.6.30 Andres Freund
2009-07-07 11:36   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-10  1:46   ` John Dykstra
2009-07-10  2:10     ` Andres Freund
2009-07-07 19:25 ` Frans Pop
     [not found]   ` <200907072125.47762.elendil-EIBgga6/0yRmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-07 20:41     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-07-26 20:23 2.6.31-rc4: " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-07-26 20:28 ` [Bug #13667] drm: display arifacts when X.Org is stopped Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-28 23:51 2.6.31-rc1-git3: Reported regressions from 2.6.30 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-29  0:11 ` [Bug #13667] drm: display arifacts when X.Org is stopped Rafael J. Wysocki

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