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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Jenkins <sourcejedi.lkml-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
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	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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	Linux MM <linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: s2disk hang update
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:13:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201002232213.56455.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9b2b86521002230624g20661564mc35093ee0423ff77-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Tuesday 23 February 2010, Alan Jenkins wrote:
> On 2/22/10, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Monday 22 February 2010, Alan Jenkins wrote:
> >> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >> > On Friday 19 February 2010, Alan Jenkins wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 2/18/10, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Thursday 18 February 2010, Alan Jenkins wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> On 2/17/10, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> On Wednesday 17 February 2010, Alan Jenkins wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On 2/16/10, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Tuesday 16 February 2010, Alan Jenkins wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> On 2/16/10, Alan Jenkins <sourcejedi.lkml-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> On 2/15/10, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday 09 February 2010, Alan Jenkins wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps I spoke too soon.  I see the same hang if I run too
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> many
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> applications.  The first hibernation fails with "not enough
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> swap"
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> as
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> expected, but the second or third attempt hangs (with the same
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> backtrace
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> as before).
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> The patch definitely helps though.  Without the patch, I see a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> hang
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> first time I try to hibernate with too many applications
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> running.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Well, I have an idea.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Can you try to apply the appended patch in addition and see if
> >> >>>>>>>>>> that
> >> >>>>>>>>>> helps?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Rafael
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> It doesn't seem to help.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> To be clear: It doesn't stop the hang when I hibernate with too
> >> >>>>>>>> many
> >> >>>>>>>> applications.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> It does stop the same hang in a different case though.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> 1. boot with init=/bin/bash
> >> >>>>>>>> 2. run s2disk
> >> >>>>>>>> 3. cancel the s2disk
> >> >>>>>>>> 4. repeat steps 2&3
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> With the patch, I can run 10s of iterations, with no hang.
> >> >>>>>>>> Without the patch, it soon hangs, (in disable_nonboot_cpus(), as
> >> >>>>>>>> always).
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> That's what happens on 2.6.33-rc7.  On 2.6.30, there is no
> >> >>>>>>>> problem.
> >> >>>>>>>> On 2.6.31 and 2.6.32 I don't get a hang, but dmesg shows an
> >> >>>>>>>> allocation
> >> >>>>>>>> failure after a couple of iterations ("kthreadd: page allocation
> >> >>>>>>>> failure. order:1, mode:0xd0").  It looks like it might be the
> >> >>>>>>>> same
> >> >>>>>>>> stop_machine thread allocation failure that causes the hang.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Have you tested it alone or on top of the previous one?  If you've
> >> >>>>>>> tested it
> >> >>>>>>> alone, please apply the appended one in addition to it and retest.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Rafael
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I did test with both patches applied together -
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> 1. [Update] MM / PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/hibernation and
> >> >>>>>> resume
> >> >>>>>> 2. "reducing the number of pages that we're going to keep
> >> >>>>>> preallocated
> >> >>>>>> by
> >> >>>>>> 20%"
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>> In that case you can try to reduce the number of preallocated pages
> >> >>>>> even
> >> >>>>> more,
> >> >>>>> ie. change "/ 5" to "/ 2" (for example) in the second patch.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>> It still hangs if I try to hibernate a couple of times with too many
> >> >>>> applications.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>> Hmm.  I guess I asked that before, but is this a 32-bit or 64-bit
> >> >>> system and
> >> >>> how much RAM is there in the box?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Rafael
> >> >>>
> >> >> EeePC 701.  32 bit.  512Mb RAM.  350Mb swap file, on a "first-gen" SSD.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Hmm.  I'd try to make  free_unnecessary_pages() free all of the
> >> > preallocated
> >> > pages and see what happens.
> >> >
> >>
> >> It still hangs in hibernation_snapshot() / disable_nonboot_cpus().
> >> After apparently freeing over 400Mb / 100,000 pages of preallocated ram.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There is a change which I missed before.  When I applied your first
> >> patch ("Force GFP_NOIO during suspend" etc.), it did change the hung
> >> task backtraces a bit.  I don't know if it tells us anything.
> >>
> >> Without the patch, there were two backtraces.  The first backtrace
> >> suggested a problem allocating pages for a kernel thread (at
> >> copy_process() / try_to_free_pages()).  The second showed that this
> >> problem was blocking s2disk (at hibernation_snapshot() /
> >> disable_nonboot_cpus() / stop_machine_create()).
> >>
> >> With the GFP_NOIO patch, I see only the s2disk backtrace.
> >
> > Can you please post this backtrace?
> 
> Sure.  It's rather like the one I posted before, except
> 
> a) it only shows the one hung task (s2disk)
> b) this time I had lockdep enabled
> c) this time most of the lines don't have question marks.

Well, it still looks like we're waiting for create_workqueue_thread() to
return, which probably is trying to allocate memory for the thread
structure.

My guess is that the preallocated memory pages freed by
free_unnecessary_pages() go into a place from where they cannot be taken for
subsequent NOIO allocations.  I have no idea why that happens though.

To test that theory you can try to change GFP_IOFS to GFP_KERNEL in the
calls to clear_gfp_allowed_mask() in kernel/power/hibernate.c (and in
kernel/power/suspend.c for completness).

Rafael

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-23 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-02 15:03 s2disk hang update Alan Jenkins
     [not found] ` <9b2b86521001020703v23152d0cy3ba2c08df88c0a79-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-02 20:38   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-02 14:21     ` Alan Jenkins
2010-02-02 20:34       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-03 11:14         ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]           ` <9b2b86521002030314s6f84b482v8cd680be556f8a4d-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-09 16:36             ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]               ` <4B718F11.2010402-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-15 23:08                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                   ` <201002160008.51875.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-16 11:09                     ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]                       ` <9b2b86521002160309g26d60bd2t4c19bd2294b76c28-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-16 15:12                         ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]                           ` <9b2b86521002160712r39ecb2b1q5e01389e9209e17b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-16 21:16                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                               ` <201002162216.30192.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-17 11:27                                 ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]                                   ` <9b2b86521002170327m1f08ff73ncca9e5eff77b1966-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-17 19:58                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                       ` <201002172058.04043.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-18 12:53                                         ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]                                           ` <9b2b86521002180453l176a83dand809dc239c220c08-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-18 20:04                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                               ` <201002182104.49631.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-19 11:48                                                 ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]                                                   ` <201002212147.07987.rjw@sisk.pl>
     [not found]                                                     ` <201002212147.07987.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-22 15:35                                                       ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]                                                         ` <4B82A440.6010701-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-22 19:17                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                                             ` <201002222017.55588.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-23 14:24                                                               ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]                                                                 ` <9b2b86521002230624g20661564mc35093ee0423ff77-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-23 21:13                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
     [not found]                                                                     ` <201002232213.56455.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-24  1:20                                                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20100224102037.2cca4f83.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-24 20:19                                                                           ` Alan Jenkins
2010-02-24 20:36                                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-24 16:23                                                                     ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]                                                                       ` <9b2b86521002240823t126d5ad8nbd292da0f4090e6c-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-24 20:52                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                                                           ` <201002242152.55408.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-25 13:10                                                                             ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]                                                                               ` <9b2b86521002250510m75c8b314o37388a04b53a2b67-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-25 20:04                                                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <201002252104.51187.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-26  9:26                                                                                     ` Alan Jenkins

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