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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mel-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] vmscan: Take order into consideration when deciding  if kswapd is in trouble
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:48:57 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <28c262360911130648q7b615ad4if75b902ed25d5fbd@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091113135443.GF29804-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Mel Gorman <mel-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 06:54:29PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>> > If reclaim fails to make sufficient progress, the priority is raised.
>> > Once the priority is higher, kswapd starts waiting on congestion.
>> > However, on systems with large numbers of high-order atomics due to
>> > crappy network cards, it's important that kswapd keep working in
>> > parallel to save their sorry ass.
>> >
>> > This patch takes into account the order kswapd is reclaiming at before
>> > waiting on congestion. The higher the order, the longer it is before
>> > kswapd considers itself to be in trouble. The impact is that kswapd
>> > works harder in parallel rather than depending on direct reclaimers or
>> > atomic allocations to fail.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mel-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
>> > ---
>> >  mm/vmscan.c |   14 ++++++++++++--
>> >  1 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>> > index ffa1766..5e200f1 100644
>> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>> > @@ -1946,7 +1946,7 @@ static int sleeping_prematurely(int order, long remaining)
>> >  static unsigned long balance_pgdat(pg_data_t *pgdat, int order)
>> >  {
>> >     int all_zones_ok;
>> > -   int priority;
>> > +   int priority, congestion_priority;
>> >     int i;
>> >     unsigned long total_scanned;
>> >     struct reclaim_state *reclaim_state = current->reclaim_state;
>> > @@ -1967,6 +1967,16 @@ static unsigned long balance_pgdat(pg_data_t *pgdat, int order)
>> >      */
>> >     int temp_priority[MAX_NR_ZONES];
>> >
>> > +   /*
>> > +    * When priority reaches congestion_priority, kswapd will sleep
>> > +    * for a short time while congestion clears. The higher the
>> > +    * order being reclaimed, the less likely kswapd will go to
>> > +    * sleep as high-order allocations are harder to reclaim and
>> > +    * stall direct reclaimers longer
>> > +    */
>> > +   congestion_priority = DEF_PRIORITY - 2;
>> > +   congestion_priority -= min(congestion_priority, sc.order);
>>
>> This calculation mean
>>
>>       sc.order        congestion_priority     scan-pages
>>       ---------------------------------------------------------
>>       0               10                      1/1024 * zone-mem
>>       1               9                       1/512  * zone-mem
>>       2               8                       1/256  * zone-mem
>>       3               7                       1/128  * zone-mem
>>       4               6                       1/64   * zone-mem
>>       5               5                       1/32   * zone-mem
>>       6               4                       1/16   * zone-mem
>>       7               3                       1/8    * zone-mem
>>       8               2                       1/4    * zone-mem
>>       9               1                       1/2    * zone-mem
>>       10              0                       1      * zone-mem
>>       11+             0                       1      * zone-mem
>>
>> I feel this is too agressive. The intention of this congestion_wait()
>> is to prevent kswapd use 100% cpu time.

As I said in reply of kosaki's patch, I can't understand point.

> Ok, I thought the intention might be to avoid dumping too many pages on
> the queue but it was already waiting on congestion elsewhere.
>
>> but the above promotion seems
>> break it.
>>
>> example,
>> ia64 have 256MB hugepage (i.e. order=14). it mean kswapd never sleep.
>> example2,

But, This is a true problem missed in my review.
Thanks, Kosaki.

>> order-3 (i.e. PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER) makes one of most inefficent
>> reclaim, because it doesn't use lumpy recliam.
>> I've seen 128GB size zone, it mean 1/128 = 1GB. oh well, kswapd definitely
>> waste cpu time 100%.
>>
>>
>> > +
>> >  loop_again:
>> >     total_scanned = 0;
>> >     sc.nr_reclaimed = 0;
>> > @@ -2092,7 +2102,7 @@ loop_again:
>> >              * OK, kswapd is getting into trouble.  Take a nap, then take
>> >              * another pass across the zones.
>> >              */
>> > -           if (total_scanned && priority < DEF_PRIORITY - 2)
>> > +           if (total_scanned && priority < congestion_priority)
>> >                     congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10);
>>
>> Instead, How about this?
>>
>
> This makes a lot of sense. Tests look good and I added stats to make sure
> the logic was triggering. On X86, kswapd avoided a congestion_wait 11723
> times and X86-64 avoided it 5084 times. I think we should hold onto the
> stats temporarily until all these bugs are ironed out.
>
> Would you like to sign off the following?
>
> If you are ok to sign off, this patch should replace my patch 5 in
> the series.

I agree Kosaki's patch is more strightforward.

You can add my review sign, too.
Thanks for good patch, Kosaki. :)

-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-13 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-12 19:30 [PATCH 0/5] Reduce GFP_ATOMIC allocation failures, candidate fix V3 Mel Gorman
2009-11-12 19:30 ` [PATCH 1/5] page allocator: Always wake kswapd when restarting an allocation attempt after direct reclaim failed Mel Gorman
2009-11-13  5:23   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-13 13:55     ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-12 19:30 ` [PATCH 2/5] page allocator: Do not allow interrupts to use ALLOC_HARDER Mel Gorman
     [not found]   ` <1258054235-3208-3-git-send-email-mel-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13  5:24     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-13 13:56       ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-12 19:30 ` [PATCH 3/5] page allocator: Wait on both sync and async congestion after direct reclaim Mel Gorman
     [not found]   ` <1258054235-3208-4-git-send-email-mel-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13 11:20     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]       ` <20091113142526.33B3.A69D9226-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13 11:55         ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]           ` <20091113115558.GY8742-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13 12:28             ` Mel Gorman
     [not found]               ` <20091113122821.GC29804-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13 13:32                 ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                   ` <20091113133211.GA8742-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13 13:41                     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-11-13 15:22                       ` Chris Mason
2009-11-13 14:16                     ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-20 14:56                   ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-12 19:30 ` [PATCH 4/5] vmscan: Have kswapd sleep for a short interval and double check it should be asleep Mel Gorman
2009-11-13 10:43   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]     ` <20091113142558.33B6.A69D9226-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13 14:13       ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-13 18:00         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]           ` <20091114023901.3DA8.A69D9226-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13 18:17             ` Mel Gorman
     [not found]               ` <20091113181740.GN29804-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-14  9:34                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]                   ` <2f11576a0911140134u21eafa83t9642bb25ccd953de-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-14 15:46                     ` Mel Gorman
     [not found]                       ` <20091114154636.GR29804-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-17 11:03                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]                           ` <20091117141638.3DCB.A69D9226-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-17 11:44                             ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-17 12:18                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 12:25                                 ` Mel Gorman
     [not found]                                   ` <20091117122555.GZ29804-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-18  5:20                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 10:34                     ` [PATCH] vmscan: Have kswapd sleep for a short interval and double check it should be asleep fix 1 Mel Gorman
2009-11-18  5:27                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-12 19:30 ` [PATCH 5/5] vmscan: Take order into consideration when deciding if kswapd is in trouble Mel Gorman
2009-11-13  9:54   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]     ` <20091113142608.33B9.A69D9226-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13 13:54       ` Mel Gorman
     [not found]         ` <20091113135443.GF29804-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13 14:48           ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2009-11-13 18:00         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]           ` <20091114023138.3DA5.A69D9226-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13 18:15             ` [PATCH] vmscan: Stop kswapd waiting on congestion when the min watermark is not being met Mel Gorman
2009-11-13 18:26               ` Frans Pop
     [not found]               ` <20091113181557.GM29804-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13 18:33                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]                   ` <2f11576a0911131033w4a9e6042k3349f0be290a167e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13 20:03                     ` [PATCH] vmscan: Stop kswapd waiting on congestion when the min watermark is not being met V2 Mel Gorman
     [not found]                       ` <20091113200357.GO29804-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-26 14:45                         ` Tobias Oetiker
     [not found]                           ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.0911261542500.21450-EjsAmf5DE5zIvOfxy3zmAzgUDZmNtoG9@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-29  7:42                             ` still getting allocation failures (was Re: [PATCH] vmscan: Stop kswapd waiting on congestion when the min watermark is not being met V2) Tobi Oetiker
2009-12-02 11:32                               ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-02 21:30                                 ` Tobias Oetiker
     [not found]                                   ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.0912022210220.30023-EjsAmf5DE5zIvOfxy3zmAzgUDZmNtoG9@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-03 20:26                                     ` Corrado Zoccolo
     [not found]                                       ` <4e5e476b0912031226i5b0e6cf9hdfd5519182ccdefa-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-14  5:59                                         ` Tobias Oetiker
     [not found]                                           ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.0912140646550.12657-EjsAmf5DE5zIvOfxy3zmAzgUDZmNtoG9@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-14  8:49                                             ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-13 18:36               ` [PATCH] vmscan: Stop kswapd waiting on congestion when the min watermark is not being met Rik van Riel
2009-11-13 14:38     ` [PATCH 5/5] vmscan: Take order into consideration when deciding if kswapd is in trouble Minchan Kim
     [not found]   ` <1258054235-3208-6-git-send-email-mel-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13 12:41     ` Minchan Kim
     [not found] ` <1258054235-3208-1-git-send-email-mel-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13  9:04   ` [PATCH 0/5] Reduce GFP_ATOMIC allocation failures, candidate fix V3 Frans Pop
     [not found]     ` <200911131004.25293.elendil-EIBgga6/0yRmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-16 17:57       ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-13 12:47   ` Tobias Oetiker
     [not found]     ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.0911131346560.22447-ZxOFkyelvri73kmZFr1Urg@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-13 13:37       ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-15 12:07   ` Karol Lewandowski
     [not found]     ` <20091115120721.GA7557-nLtalAL5mPp2RxbNQum0x1nzlInOXLuq@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-16  9:52       ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-16 12:08         ` Karol Lewandowski
     [not found]           ` <20091116120845.GA10115-nLtalAL5mPp2RxbNQum0x1nzlInOXLuq@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-16 14:32             ` Karol Lewandowski

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