From: Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Andreas Mohr <andi-5+Cda9B46AM@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
alsa-devel-K7yf7f+aM1XWsZ/bQMPhNw@public.gmane.org,
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Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] Bugs on aspire one A150
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:00:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <492856C2.8000707@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <491DBDEA.9010104-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> Andreas Mohr wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 07:07:04PM +0200, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
>>> I pretty much studied the datasheet and driver, and this is what I
>>> found:
>>> btw, my acer 5720 and aspire one share same ALC268.
>>> Some stuff is trivially fixable, some seems to be unfixable at all:
>>
>> Wow, what an extremely in-depth analysis!
>> I just intended to dive into getting mic routing corrected myself,
>> thus you saved me a lot of time!
>>
>>> model=acer is used on my regular laptop.
>>> model-acer-aspire is used on aspire one laptop, and it needs to be
>>> renamed, as both are aspire.
>>
>> +1 (your analysis of both being rather different - as already pondered -
>> confirms this necessity)
>>
>>> And now for unfixable problems:
>>>
>>> 1) There is strong DC offset on all inputs.
>>> it is even different on left/right and depends on capture volume.
>>> I tried to change the VREF only param that could help, but it doesn't.
>>> I feel that this is hardware flaw.
>>> (It is possible that voltage on inputs is created by circuit made by
>>> acer, and then ALC268 amplifies it.)
>>
>> Sounds like really bad circuit design then.
>> One would think that the Intel HDA architecture might have builtin
>> measures to compensate for this if needed? DC offset issues on
>> soundcards aren't exactly a new phenomenon after all...
>>
>>> Lastly I noticed that datasheet mentions so called 'coefficients':
>>> the codecs exposes lots of internal and undocumented registers using
>>> set address/ get/set value scheme.
>>> maybe some of above bugs are fixable there, but ether realtek has to
>>> provide data for that or reverse engineering of
>>> windows driver is required.
>>
>> I've actually had a peek at the .inf files since I thought that it would
>> already contain register values in those registry keys that it creates on
>> install, but yeah, that's all in-driver it seems.
>> Probably time to ask Acer about specifics, especially since I didn't spot
>> any hda-intel changes in their linux-2.6.23.9lw source.
>>
>> Thank you very much,
>>
>> Andreas Mohr
>
> Small update:
>
> 1) The dc offset isn't present on aspire one, really is a circuit design
> bug I guess 2) Internal mic works perfectly on aspire one, can reproduce
> the strange behaver at all,
> Probably this was mixer bug.
Finally, I found how to reproduce that bug,
I mean to get normal volume on internal mic, I have to increase volume
only on left or right channel.
So, this happens always, and _only_ when recording _mono_ sound from internal
mic.
Since hardware doesn't support hardware mono input, tested with -D hw:0
I suspect this to be alsa-lib bug, any ideas?
Happens with arecord -D plughw:0 -c1 .
Best regards,
Maxim Levitsky
>
> So aspire one support is almost, only need to add support to restore
> beep volume
> after resume.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Maxim Levitsky
>
>
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[not found] ` <491506DB.1070000-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-08 11:57 ` Bugs on aspire one A150 Alan Jenkins
2008-11-09 0:52 ` Maxim Levitsky
[not found] ` <49163435.20301-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-09 8:54 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 13:31 ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-09 15:13 ` Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20081109151323.GA18705-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-09 18:58 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 20:09 ` Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20081109200929.GA29333-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-12 11:08 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 17:07 ` Maxim Levitsky
[not found] ` <491B0D38.1050207-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-12 18:05 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20081112180519.GA21919-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-14 18:05 ` Maxim Levitsky
[not found] ` <491DBDEA.9010104-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-22 19:00 ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2008-11-22 19:43 ` Andreas Mohr
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2008-11-24 14:35 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-15 9:21 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 12:03 ` Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20090316120312.GA19299-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16 12:09 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 13:30 ` Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20090316133001.GA8437-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16 14:18 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 14:31 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 14:42 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 14:50 ` Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20090316145036.GA26358-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16 15:34 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 16:02 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 16:06 ` Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <s5hwsappi44.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16 16:19 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 17:00 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 17:15 ` Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <s5hljr5pex0.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16 17:30 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20090316173000.GA25647-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16 17:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 18:06 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 20:28 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 21:22 ` Andreas Mohr
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2009-03-17 0:52 ` [alsa-devel] " Maxim Levitsky
2009-03-17 7:57 ` Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <s5heiwwzim7.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 11:30 ` [alsa-devel] " Maxim Levitsky
2009-03-17 12:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 7:57 ` Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <s5hfxhczinh.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 10:05 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 10:38 ` Andreas Mohr
[not found] ` <20090317103845.GA26007-p/qQFhXj4MHA4IYVXhSI5GHfThorsUsI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 10:47 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 11:25 ` Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <s5h3adcpf1i.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 16:18 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 20:32 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-18 9:05 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-18 9:19 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-20 18:56 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-20 20:33 ` Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <s5hmybgnddc.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-22 12:55 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
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2009-03-23 6:51 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 17:20 ` Maxim Levitsky
[not found] ` <s5hiqqtkxqr.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-12 18:53 ` HDA-emu 0.0.1 (Re: [alsa-devel] Bugs on aspire one A150) Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 10:43 ` Bugs on aspire one A150 Alan Jenkins
2008-11-12 17:48 ` Maxim Levitsky
[not found] ` <49157E97.60503-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-14 19:06 ` Maxim Levitsky
[not found] ` <491DCC21.6060705-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-14 19:59 ` Alan Jenkins
[not found] ` <61b223ba0811141159k179558d0i60cebf373baa9fb8-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-15 12:52 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-15 12:55 ` Matthew Garrett
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