From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>,
Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bugs on aspire one A150
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:15:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hljr5pex0.wl%tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090316170015.GA9776@rhlx01.hs-esslingen.de>
At Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:00:15 +0100,
Andreas Mohr wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 05:19:38PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > At Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:06:35 +0100,
> > 私 wrote:
> > >
> > > > > What are "sliders"?
> > > >
> > > > Umm, volume level controls.
> > >
> > > Yes but there are many of such :)
> > >
> > > More exactly, from the driver perspective, there are no volume
> > > controls but only there are control elements with integer values.
> > > Do you mean "Capture Volume" control or which one?
>
> Hmm, ok, this needs to be more precise:
> In gamix (codec "HDA Intel : Realtek ALC268"), the Capture Volume control.
Yeah, that's more understandable :)
BTW, does "Capture Volume" influence on the recording level even for
the built-in mic, right? I'm asking this because the digital mic on
STAC/IDT codecs isn't controlled via "Capture Volume" control that is
bound to an ADC widget. (That's why "Digital Capture Volume" control
exists. It's a value used by alsa-lib softvol plugin for "default"
PCM.)
> > > And, is the behavior consistent regardless of the value high, i.e.
> > > the key is only whether the values for both channels are identical?
> >
> > BTW, what if you record with the following definition?
> > Put the below to ~/.asoundrc
> >
> > pcm.imix {
> > type plug
> > slave.pcm "hw"
> > ttable.0.0 0.5
> > ttable.0.1 -0.5
> > }
> >
> > and record like
> >
> > % aplay -Dimix -c1 foo.wav
>
> Does NOT exhibit the "equal sliders == no sound" bug (apart from this sliders
> are acting normally, i.e. slider low == no sound), despite being a
> "plug" type definition (this is what you wanted to discern, right? ;).
Interesting. This implies that one channel is inverted indeed.
As default the alsa-lib plugin downmixes a stereo stream to a mono
stream simply by left/2 + right/2. The above changes the routing
policy as left/2 - right/2.
So we need to pass some information to change this kind of thing...
But a question still remains; why conversion with sox worked.
Maybe it didn't mix? Or, the code alsa-lib could be buggy...
A simple test would be to just sum all 16bit samples in a stereo
stream file externally. That is, first record a RAW file via
% arecord -Dhw -traw -fdat foo.dat
Then create a mono stream just do 16bit left/2 + right/2 calculation
by any way (a good homework for kids :). Is it also problematic?
thanks,
Takashi
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[not found] ` <491506DB.1070000-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-08 11:57 ` Bugs on aspire one A150 Alan Jenkins
2008-11-09 0:52 ` Maxim Levitsky
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2008-11-09 8:54 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 13:31 ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-09 15:13 ` Andreas Mohr
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2008-11-09 18:58 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 20:09 ` Andreas Mohr
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2008-11-12 11:08 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 17:07 ` Maxim Levitsky
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2008-11-12 18:05 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
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2008-11-14 18:05 ` Maxim Levitsky
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2008-11-22 19:00 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-22 19:43 ` Andreas Mohr
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2008-11-24 14:35 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-15 9:21 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 12:03 ` Andreas Mohr
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2009-03-16 12:09 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 13:30 ` Andreas Mohr
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2009-03-16 14:18 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 14:31 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 14:42 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 14:50 ` Andreas Mohr
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2009-03-16 15:34 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 16:02 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 16:06 ` Takashi Iwai
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2009-03-16 16:19 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 17:00 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 17:15 ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
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2009-03-16 17:30 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
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2009-03-16 17:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 18:06 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 20:28 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 21:22 ` Andreas Mohr
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2009-03-17 0:52 ` [alsa-devel] " Maxim Levitsky
2009-03-17 7:57 ` Takashi Iwai
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2009-03-17 11:30 ` [alsa-devel] " Maxim Levitsky
2009-03-17 12:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 7:57 ` Takashi Iwai
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2009-03-17 10:05 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 10:38 ` Andreas Mohr
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2009-03-17 10:47 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 11:25 ` Takashi Iwai
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2009-03-17 16:18 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 20:32 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-18 9:05 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-18 9:19 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-20 18:56 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-20 20:33 ` Takashi Iwai
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2009-03-22 12:55 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
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2009-03-23 6:51 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 17:20 ` Maxim Levitsky
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2008-11-12 18:53 ` HDA-emu 0.0.1 (Re: [alsa-devel] Bugs on aspire one A150) Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 10:43 ` Bugs on aspire one A150 Alan Jenkins
2008-11-12 17:48 ` Maxim Levitsky
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2008-11-14 19:06 ` Maxim Levitsky
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2008-11-14 19:59 ` Alan Jenkins
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2008-11-15 12:52 ` Maxim Levitsky
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