From: nilesh.tayade@netscout.com (nilesh)
To: kernelnewbies@lists.kernelnewbies.org
Subject: spin_lock and scheduler confusion
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:01:08 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1294392668.1620.18.camel@nilesh-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=rHiY5WNpLddWin2ake6AGVP5=hZuEh_9iU_0t@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 13:33 +0530, anish singh wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:19 PM, nilesh <nilesh.tayade@netscout.com>
> wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 13:05 +0530, Rajat Sharma wrote:
> > As I remember timer interrupt as well is an NMI so, it is
> possible
> > (although not advised) to call schedule function while
> holding
> > spinlock on same core.
> >
> > spin_lock_irqsave();
> > schedule();
> > spin_lock_irqrestore();
> >
> > however if you have debugging options turned on like
> > CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK, you may likely get kernel warning for
> > 'scheduling in atomic context'.
> >
> > Then what can happen if this core is allowed to switched to
> new
> > process? Consider the case where new process as well tries
> to aquire
> > same spin_lock() which new process can not aquire and start
> spinning
> > for the lock for ever :). Likewise, other cores will also
> get locked
> > down.
> >
> > However stil you can detect softlockup through NMI watchdog.
>
>
> >>Sorry if I am building up the confusion here. But as Dave
> Hylands
> >>initially mentioned, there will be no timer interrupt. So
> shouldn't the
> >>NMI watchdog get triggered then? No interrupts -> system
> freeze -> NMI
> >>Wdt reboot.
>
> In my opinion(uninformed ) NMI watchdog will be triggered only in case
> where you are holding a spinlock.It will not be triggered just because
> timer interrupts are disabled due to holding a spinlock.
>
No, what I meant is - we have masked all the interrupts before holding
the spinlock (and not even getting the timer interrupts) so it's as good
as system freeze. And we should trigger the NMI watchdog, isn't it?
--
Thanks,
Nilesh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-07 9:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <D69C90565D53114396BF743585AF5A09122E61E90F@VSHINMSMBX01.vshodc.lntinfotech.com>
2011-01-05 22:23 ` spin_lock and scheduler confusion Viral Mehta
2011-01-07 3:51 ` Alexandre Courbot
2011-01-07 3:56 ` Mulyadi Santosa
2011-01-07 5:28 ` Dave Hylands
2011-01-07 6:27 ` Tayade, Nilesh
2011-01-07 7:02 ` Tirtha Ghosh
2011-01-07 7:35 ` Rajat Sharma
2011-01-07 7:49 ` nilesh
2011-01-07 8:03 ` anish singh
2011-01-07 9:31 ` nilesh [this message]
2011-01-07 13:58 ` Rajat Sharma
2011-01-07 15:49 ` Dave Hylands
2011-01-07 15:51 ` Dave Hylands
2011-01-07 17:46 ` Viral Mehta
2011-01-08 10:58 ` Rajat Sharma
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=1294392668.1620.18.camel@nilesh-desktop \
--to=nilesh.tayade@netscout.com \
--cc=kernelnewbies@lists.kernelnewbies.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).