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* Need help to understand Linux kernel source versioning systems
@ 2017-07-24 12:56 ` vibnwis
  2017-07-25  9:27   ` Kamil Konieczny
  2017-07-25 12:14   ` Yubin Ruan
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: vibnwis @ 2017-07-24 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: kernelnewbies

Hi there,

Being a newbie, I encountered the following scenarios when tracing
build_kernel.sh script from eewiki. Would someone help me to understand why
please? From my experience, I would to summarize the following scenario.

1. First, source is cloned from
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git and
checked for release version, "v4.10.17". Obviously it has no kernel tag of
"v4.10.17", but "v4.10"

2. As "v4.10.17" does not exist, it tried to pull from the origin/master by
command, git pull --no-edit
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git master
--tags

3. Kernel tag, of "v4.10.17" is checked being verified again, but failed.
Hence, now it fetched from  git fetch
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git
master --tags

Now, the kernel, of v4.10.17" is found.

My questions are:

1. One would know that clone of
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git would
not produce kernel tag of , "v4.10.17", wouldn't it?

2. Similar by pull it again from
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git with
option of master --tags would not produce kernel tag, "v4.10.17" as well,
wouldn' it?

3. Since fetching with git fetch
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git
master --tags would produce v4.10.17, why would not it clone it from
.../stable/linux-stable,git?

I know that the answers would be very lengthy and I would probably need
some basics of LInux kernel to understand the answers. However, I will
investigate further for things that I don't understand. For now, please
educate me if you could.


The following are the snapshot of the process getting the kernel source.

> git clone
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git
/home/qws/myGithub/Panda-Repo/armv7-multiplatform/ignore/linux-src

2.
> git clone --shared
/home/qws/myGithub/Panda-Repo/armv7-multiplatform/ignore/linux-src
/home/qws/myGithub/Panda-Repo/armv7-multiplatform/KERNEL


3.
> git tag | grep "v4.10.17" | grep -v rc > /dev/null 2>&1 ||
git_kernel_torvalds
# The following is resulted of git_kernel_torvalds being executed, as the
former command failed
> git pull --no-edit
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git master
--tags

4.
> git tag | grep "v4.10.17" | grep -v rc > /dev/null 2>&1 ||
git_kernel_stable
# The following is resulted of git_kernel_stable being execuated, as the
former command failed
> git fetch
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git
master --tags

Thank you

Best regards
Lim
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* Need help to understand Linux kernel source versioning systems
  2017-07-24 12:56 ` Need help to understand Linux kernel source versioning systems vibnwis
@ 2017-07-25  9:27   ` Kamil Konieczny
  2017-07-25 12:14   ` Yubin Ruan
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Kamil Konieczny @ 2017-07-25  9:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: kernelnewbies

On 24.07.2017 14:56, vibnwis wrote:

> Being a newbie, I encountered the following scenarios when tracing
> build_kernel.sh script from eewiki. Would someone help me to understand why
> please? From my experience, I would to summarize the following scenario.
> 
> 1. First, source is cloned from
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git and
> checked for release version, "v4.10.17". Obviously it has no kernel tag of
> "v4.10.17", but "v4.10" [...]

You should stick to longterm or current branch,
see https://www.kernel.org/

note that stable can be End-of-Life = EOL

stable: 	4.12.3 	2017-07-21
stable: 	4.11.12 [EOL] 	2017-07-21
longterm: 	4.9.39 	2017-07-21

Best regards,
Kamil

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* Need help to understand Linux kernel source versioning systems
  2017-07-24 12:56 ` Need help to understand Linux kernel source versioning systems vibnwis
  2017-07-25  9:27   ` Kamil Konieczny
@ 2017-07-25 12:14   ` Yubin Ruan
  2017-07-25 15:25     ` valdis.kletnieks at vt.edu
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Yubin Ruan @ 2017-07-25 12:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: kernelnewbies

2017-07-24 20:56 GMT+08:00 vibnwis <vibnwis@gmail.com>:
> Hi there,
>
> Being a newbie, I encountered the following scenarios when tracing
> build_kernel.sh script from eewiki. Would someone help me to understand why
> please? From my experience, I would to summarize the following scenario.
>
> 1. First, source is cloned from
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git and
> checked for release version, "v4.10.17". Obviously it has no kernel tag of
> "v4.10.17", but "v4.10"
>
> 2. As "v4.10.17" does not exist, it tried to pull from the origin/master by
> command, git pull --no-edit
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git master
> --tags
>
> 3. Kernel tag, of "v4.10.17" is checked being verified again, but failed.
> Hence, now it fetched from  git fetch
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git
> master --tags
>
> Now, the kernel, of v4.10.17" is found.
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1. One would know that clone of
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git would not
> produce kernel tag of , "v4.10.17", wouldn't it?
>
> 2. Similar by pull it again from
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git with
> option of master --tags would not produce kernel tag, "v4.10.17" as well,
> wouldn' it?
>
> 3. Since fetching with git fetch
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git
> master --tags would produce v4.10.17, why would not it clone it from
> .../stable/linux-stable,git?

Here is the basic Linux kernel development model: Before every "major" release,
there would be 7 "rc" release, and along with each rc release, there
is a stable release.
For example, let's say we are at 4.2 (or, 4.2.0) now. Before we move
to 4.3, there would
4.3.1-rc, 4.3.2-rc, ..., 4.3.7-rc. After 4.3.7-rc, we have 4.3 (or,
4.3.0). But, rc release is not
stable! So, in order to enable users to use/test the kernel, Greg KH
would maintain a
relatively stable kernel along with each rc release. In the example
above, there would be
4.2.1 along with 4.3.1-rc, 4.2.2 along with 4.3.2-rc, etc. Basically
it is something like this:

     4.2.0
      |          \
4.3.1-rc    4.2.1
      |            |
4.3.2-rc     4.2.2
      |            |
4.3.3-rc     4.2.3
      |            |
4.3.4-rc     4.2.4
      |            |
4.3.5-rc     4.2.5
      |            |
4.3.6-rc     4.2.6
      |            |
4.3.7-rc     4.2.7   <- this branch is thrown away after 4.4.0 is released
      |
4.4.0

So, you see, you can only get v4.10.17 from the stable release.

see:
(1) https://github.com/gregkh/kernel-development
(2) https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.11/process/2.Process.html

Yubin

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* Need help to understand Linux kernel source versioning systems
  2017-07-25 12:14   ` Yubin Ruan
@ 2017-07-25 15:25     ` valdis.kletnieks at vt.edu
  2017-07-26  8:51       ` vibnwis
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: valdis.kletnieks at vt.edu @ 2017-07-25 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: kernelnewbies

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:14:45 +0800, Yubin Ruan said:

> For example, let's say we are at 4.2 (or, 4.2.0) now. Before we move
> to 4.3, there would
> 4.3.1-rc, 4.3.2-rc, ..., 4.3.7-rc. After 4.3.7-rc, we have 4.3 (or,

4.3-rc1, 4.3-rc2, ... 4.3-rc7.
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* Need help to understand Linux kernel source versioning systems
  2017-07-25 15:25     ` valdis.kletnieks at vt.edu
@ 2017-07-26  8:51       ` vibnwis
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: vibnwis @ 2017-07-26  8:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: kernelnewbies

Thank you so much for the answers.

On 26 July 2017 at 03:25, <valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:14:45 +0800, Yubin Ruan said:
>
> > For example, let's say we are at 4.2 (or, 4.2.0) now. Before we move
> > to 4.3, there would
> > 4.3.1-rc, 4.3.2-rc, ..., 4.3.7-rc. After 4.3.7-rc, we have 4.3 (or,
>
> 4.3-rc1, 4.3-rc2, ... 4.3-rc7.
>
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