2.6.10 no boot

2.6.10 no boot

[Marcello Stanisci]

Dear All,

I built a linux kernel 2.6.10. When grub tries to execute it the
system shows the message:

Uncompressing Linux..

and then reboots in a very Spartan way.

My suspects are that a modern bootloader tries to boot an older
(although respectful) kernel. In facts grub does some
preliminar, and mysterious to me, work prior to launch the kernel.

In the following links you will find my .config and an excerpt of my
grub.cfg. As an additional information, the same happens on two
machines of mine (both having a debian wheezy), so the problem should
not be related to hardware.

.config -->    http://www.polarhome.com:753/~marcello/.config
grub.cfg -->  http://www.polarhome.com:753/~marcello/grub.cfg

In just one word: HELP

Thanks in Advance.

2.6.10 no boot

[Marcello Stanisci]

I have a kernel line, see "menuentry" in my grub.cfg.
I don't have a initrd entry, but it should not be required

2014-04-05 16:53 GMT+02:00 Corey Sheldon <sheldon.corey@gmail.com>:
> missing the kernel line brother see below: (edit for your setup as needed..
>
> linux /vmlinuz-3.14.0-1.vanilla.mainline.knurd.1.fc20.i686
> root=/dev/mapper/luks-35c3bcf7-802e-4aba-b62f-cf17b01d54cb ro
> rd.luks.uuid={snipped}
>
> initrd /initramfs-3.14.0-1.vanilla.mainline.knurd.1.fc20.i686.img
> }
>
> Corey W Sheldon
> Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine
> 310.909.7672
> www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Marcello Stanisci <stanisci.m@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I built a linux kernel 2.6.10. When grub tries to execute it the
>> system shows the message:
>>
>> Uncompressing Linux..
>>
>> and then reboots in a very Spartan way.
>>
>> My suspects are that a modern bootloader tries to boot an older
>> (although respectful) kernel. In facts grub does some
>> preliminar, and mysterious to me, work prior to launch the kernel.
>>
>> In the following links you will find my .config and an excerpt of my
>> grub.cfg. As an additional information, the same happens on two
>> machines of mine (both having a debian wheezy), so the problem should
>> not be related to hardware.
>>
>> .config -->    http://www.polarhome.com:753/~marcello/.config
>> grub.cfg -->  http://www.polarhome.com:753/~marcello/grub.cfg
>>
>> In just one word: HELP
>>
>> Thanks in Advance.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Kernelnewbies mailing list
>> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
>> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
>
>

2.6.10 no boot

[Marcello Stanisci]

I already have a kernel that runs without initrd. Anyway, the use of
initrd doesn't depend on your distro.

Additional information: passing option "earlyprintk" to the kernel
does not show anything.
The system just reboots after showing "Uncompressing Linux.."

2014-04-05 17:22 GMT+02:00 Corey Sheldon <sheldon.corey@gmail.com>:
> even for debian
>
> Corey W Sheldon
> Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine
> 310.909.7672
> www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Corey Sheldon <sheldon.corey@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> per this page as well it indicates a initrd line
>> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html#mozTocId542243
>>
>> Corey W Sheldon
>> Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine
>> 310.909.7672
>> www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Marcello Stanisci <stanisci.m@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a kernel line, see "menuentry" in my grub.cfg.
>>> I don't have a initrd entry, but it should not be required
>>>
>>> 2014-04-05 16:53 GMT+02:00 Corey Sheldon <sheldon.corey@gmail.com>:
>>> > missing the kernel line brother see below: (edit for your setup as
>>> > needed..
>>> >
>>> > linux /vmlinuz-3.14.0-1.vanilla.mainline.knurd.1.fc20.i686
>>> > root=/dev/mapper/luks-35c3bcf7-802e-4aba-b62f-cf17b01d54cb ro
>>> > rd.luks.uuid={snipped}
>>> >
>>> > initrd /initramfs-3.14.0-1.vanilla.mainline.knurd.1.fc20.i686.img
>>> > }
>>> >
>>> > Corey W Sheldon
>>> > Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine
>>> > 310.909.7672
>>> > www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Marcello Stanisci
>>> > <stanisci.m@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Dear All,
>>> >>
>>> >> I built a linux kernel 2.6.10. When grub tries to execute it the
>>> >> system shows the message:
>>> >>
>>> >> Uncompressing Linux..
>>> >>
>>> >> and then reboots in a very Spartan way.
>>> >>
>>> >> My suspects are that a modern bootloader tries to boot an older
>>> >> (although respectful) kernel. In facts grub does some
>>> >> preliminar, and mysterious to me, work prior to launch the kernel.
>>> >>
>>> >> In the following links you will find my .config and an excerpt of my
>>> >> grub.cfg. As an additional information, the same happens on two
>>> >> machines of mine (both having a debian wheezy), so the problem should
>>> >> not be related to hardware.
>>> >>
>>> >> .config -->    http://www.polarhome.com:753/~marcello/.config
>>> >> grub.cfg -->  http://www.polarhome.com:753/~marcello/grub.cfg
>>> >>
>>> >> In just one word: HELP
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks in Advance.
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> Kernelnewbies mailing list
>>> >> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
>>> >> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
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>>
>>
>

2.6.10 no boot

[Greg KH]

On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 01:05:42PM +0200, Marcello Stanisci wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I built a linux kernel 2.6.10. When grub tries to execute it the
> system shows the message:

2.6.10 is _very_ old, it proabably doesn't even work on modern hardware.
Why are you trying to use such an old kernel release?

2.6.10 no boot

[Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu]

On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 13:05:42 +0200, Marcello Stanisci said:

> I built a linux kernel 2.6.10.

linux-2.6.10.tar.gz      24-Dec-2004 22:38   44M

Unless it's a really old box, Linux probably isn't sure how to support
it.  Remember that in 2004, Intel was still releasing new versions of
the Pentium 4 as their high-end CPUs....

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2.6.10 no boot

[Marcello Stanisci]

> 2.6.10 is _very_ old, it proabably doesn't even work on modern hardware.
> Why are you trying to use such an old kernel release?

to study the examples that are in your book ;-) I mean LDD3.
I tried to build the snull driver with 2.6.39 but it doesn't compile,
so I decided to work
on the same version of the kernel as the book does.

2.6.10 no boot

[Marcello Stanisci]

> Unless it's a really old box, Linux probably isn't sure how to support
> it.  Remember that in 2004, Intel was still releasing new versions of
> the Pentium 4 as their high-end CPUs....
the same happens on a pretty old box, it should be from the early 2000s.

But I forgot to mention another thing:

I patched it with a patch for 2.6.11 to make it compile with binutils
2.22 (otherwise the assembler
would complain), and, although the compilation silently ends, it
probably messed up something.
I will look for the same patch for 2.6.10, or to downgrade my binutils.

2.6.10 no boot

[Marcello Stanisci]

> But I forgot to mention another thing:
>
> I patched it with a patch for 2.6.11 to make it compile with binutils
> 2.22 (otherwise the assembler
> would complain), and, although the compilation silently ends, it
> probably messed up something.
> I will look for the same patch for 2.6.10, or to downgrade my binutils.

For those interested, the patch is that one:

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/devel/binutils/linux-2.6-seg-5.patch

2.6.10 no boot

[Greg KH]

On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 10:59:04AM +0200, Marcello Stanisci wrote:
> > 2.6.10 is _very_ old, it proabably doesn't even work on modern hardware.
> > Why are you trying to use such an old kernel release?
> 
> to study the examples that are in your book ;-) I mean LDD3.
> I tried to build the snull driver with 2.6.39 but it doesn't compile,
> so I decided to work
> on the same version of the kernel as the book does.

2.6.39 is also really old, don't use it.

If you search around, there are updated versions of the examples online,
that work with the latest kernel releases, so I'd recommend using that.

good luck,

greg k-h

2.6.10 no boot

[Andre Ferraz]

There it is an 4th edition of LDD that will be released this year

http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920030867.do

Maybe oreilly will release the digital version sooner


On 04/06, Marcello Stanisci wrote:
> > 2.6.10 is _very_ old, it proabably doesn't even work on modern hardware.
> > Why are you trying to use such an old kernel release?
> 
> to study the examples that are in your book ;-) I mean LDD3.
> I tried to build the snull driver with 2.6.39 but it doesn't compile,
> so I decided to work
> on the same version of the kernel as the book does.
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
> 

2.6.10 no boot

[Marcello Stanisci]

2014-04-08 0:08 GMT+02:00 Andre Ferraz <deferraz@terra.com.br>:
> There it is an 4th edition of LDD that will be released this year
>
> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920030867.do
>
> Maybe oreilly will release the digital version sooner

yes, I guess I'll wait August.

Anyway, I even built the 2.6.10 kernel with the version of tools
suggested in Documentation/Changes, that are gcc 2.95 and binutils
2.12..
with no luck :((

thanks guys

2.6.10 no boot

[Marcello Stanisci]

it kicked out some warnings concerning casts but I don't think they
are alarming. So, for the ones interested, in link [1] you'll find
updated versions of snull driver, up to 2.6.31.

[1] http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~baker/devices/lxr/http/source/ldd-examples/snull/snull.c

cheers

2014-04-08 13:56 GMT+02:00 Corey Sheldon <sheldon.corey@gmail.com>:
> are you sure the compilation isn't kicking errors that seems real odd even
> for such an ancient kernel  .....may i recommend checking on the CentOS
> forums as that still totes the 2.6.x kernels

2.6.10 no boot

[Luis Ortega]

Hi Marcello,

The most updated version of LDD3 code I know of is in here:
https://github.com/martinezjavier/ldd3/

I updated most of the modules to work with Linux 3.10 when I was going
through the book. Those that do not work you can try fixing yourself,
it is mostly updating the procfs interface calls.

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Marcello Stanisci <stanisci.m@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2014-04-08 0:08 GMT+02:00 Andre Ferraz <deferraz@terra.com.br>:
>> There it is an 4th edition of LDD that will be released this year
>>
>> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920030867.do
>>
>> Maybe oreilly will release the digital version sooner

Wow, great news! Thanks for sharing.

2.6.10 no boot

[Marcello Stanisci]

Hey Peter,
I did the same booting my real machine with that version of Ubuntu Live and
everything went fine, so it is definitely not an hardware issue.

ps: you wrote just to me, not to the list.

Cheers

2014-04-08 14:41 GMT+02:00 Peter Senna Tschudin <peter.senna@gmail.com>:
> Hey Marcello,
>
> It runs inside virtual machines. I have successfully boot 2.6.10 from
> Ubuntu 5.04 inside KVM using virtual machine manager as frontend.
>
> Peter
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Marcello Stanisci <stanisci.m@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2014-04-08 0:08 GMT+02:00 Andre Ferraz <deferraz@terra.com.br>:
>>> There it is an 4th edition of LDD that will be released this year
>>>
>>> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920030867.do
>>>
>>> Maybe oreilly will release the digital version sooner
>>
>> yes, I guess I'll wait August.
>>
>> Anyway, I even built the 2.6.10 kernel with the version of tools
>> suggested in Documentation/Changes, that are gcc 2.95 and binutils
>> 2.12..
>> with no luck :((
>>
>> thanks guys
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
>> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
>
>
>
> --
> Peter

2.6.10 no boot

[Marcello Stanisci]

Thanks for sharing to you too.

I forgot:
if someone is cuorious about the working and non working config files
for 2.6.10, they are:
http://www.polarhome.com:753/~marcello/config-2.6.10-5-386 <-- the
working one from Ubuntu 5.04
http://www.polarhome.com:753/~marcello/.config <-- the non working one
from "make defconfig"

Cheers

2014-04-08 14:11 GMT+02:00 Luis Ortega <luiorpe1@gmail.com>:
> Hi Marcello,
>
> The most updated version of LDD3 code I know of is in here:
> https://github.com/martinezjavier/ldd3/
>
> I updated most of the modules to work with Linux 3.10 when I was going
> through the book. Those that do not work you can try fixing yourself,
> it is mostly updating the procfs interface calls.
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Marcello Stanisci <stanisci.m@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2014-04-08 0:08 GMT+02:00 Andre Ferraz <deferraz@terra.com.br>:
>>> There it is an 4th edition of LDD that will be released this year
>>>
>>> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920030867.do
>>>
>>> Maybe oreilly will release the digital version sooner
>
> Wow, great news! Thanks for sharing.