kernelnewbies.kernelnewbies.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: greg@kroah.com (Greg KH)
To: kernelnewbies@lists.kernelnewbies.org
Subject: How to handle Hotplug with UIO userspace driver
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:46:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141126204656.GA19173@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC+QLdRaaE5X=+ohj5Ssf0uQtO59T7ei=tBpBpXhQOvF=Jn2CA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:33:41PM -0800, Mandeep Sandhu wrote:
>     > While the kernel driver has no problem with hot-removal, I see that if I
>     > "unregister" our UIO driver in response to the removal, then the mapping
>     for
>     > the hardware's physical memory would become "invalid" (done by UIO on
>     > unregsiter). This could possibly cause the user-space process to crash
>     due to
>     > illegal memory access.
> 
>     You should just get 0xff on the memory reads, right?? You can catch the
>     signal for invalid memory accesses.
> 
> 
> Wouldn't I get an illegal memory access, as UIO would've removed the mappings
> that it setup when I registered the UIO driver? I saw the userspace process
> segfault after removal.

I don't know, never tried it.  What about catching the signal for this?

>     > Is there a "standard" way to handle this scenario, i.e for hotpluggable
>     > hardware using UIO?
> 
>     Your kernel driver knows when the device is removed, so have it tell
>     userspace this.? Or, just tie into libudev and have your userspace
>     program be notified when the device goes away.
> 
> 
> Right. This is what I'm trying to do using a udev "remove" rule.

No, just have libudev tell you about the problem, don't create a whole
new rule for this, that's overkill and messy and not dynamic at all.

> Although the
> question still remains, what will happen if the device is being actively
> accessed _before_ the signal reaches the process. Is it safe to do
> "uio_unregister_device" while a userspace process is accessing the device?

I don't know, try it and see :)

> I saw a patch for this very situation (UIO & hotplug) being discussed on LKML
> almost 4 yrs back, although I don't see it in my kernel version - 3.16.0
> (Ubuntu?3.16.0-24-generic).
> The LKML link:
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/9/20/21
> 
> Wouldn't this solve the issue? I wonder why it didn't make it into mainline?

No idea, that UIO maintainer must be really lazy and never apply patches :)

Try that series on your kernel and see what happens.  If it works,
please resend that patch series.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-26 20:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-26 19:27 How to handle Hotplug with UIO userspace driver Mandeep Sandhu
2014-11-26 19:50 ` Greg KH
2014-11-26 20:33   ` Mandeep Sandhu
2014-11-26 20:46     ` Greg KH [this message]
2014-11-26 21:09       ` Mandeep Sandhu
2014-12-08 23:24       ` Mandeep Sandhu
2014-12-08 23:27         ` Mandeep Sandhu
2017-09-28 18:51         ` Divakar
2017-09-28 23:12           ` Mandeep Sandhu

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20141126204656.GA19173@kroah.com \
    --to=greg@kroah.com \
    --cc=kernelnewbies@lists.kernelnewbies.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).