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From: greg@kroah.com (Greg KH)
To: kernelnewbies@lists.kernelnewbies.org
Subject: Don't know where to start linux kernel programming
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 15:56:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170823225600.GA5193@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd2570f9-3313-7a87-6fa9-37edc90cde24@mrbrklyn.com>

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 04:08:16PM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On 08/22/2017 01:39 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:59:31PM -0400, valdis.kletnieks at vt.edu wrote:
> >> On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 12:48:42 -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey said:
> >>
> >>> An observation that may just mean I haven't stumbled upon it yet is
> >>> that it would be nice to... stumble upon... a list of kernel problems
> >>> that *kernelnewbies* could cut their teeth on. I do understand that
> >>> this is a naive wish list item due to the nearly every nanosecond
> >>> changing complexity of things. :)
> >>
> >> Such a thing existed 10 or 15 years ago.  Unfortunately for the newbies, there
> >> are very few problems that newbies can attack, because if they were that
> >> simple, somebody would already have *done* them.
> > 
> > Not really, please look at drivers/staging/*/TODO there are loads of
> > simple things left to do, with more being added all the time (a huge new
> > wireless driver just landed that could use lots of cleanups.)
> > 
> >> One thing in particular that pretty much killed the kernel-janitors project
> >> (which did cleanup of code) was a change in the rules for kernel API changes.
> >> Before, somebody could add a new/changed API, and the janitors would change all
> >> the uses in the tree.  We now require that a patch series that changes an API
> >> has to also fix all in-tree uses of the API.
> > 
> > That's always been the rule, you could never break the build.  What is
> > better now in that people who do the new API usually fix everything up
> > at the same time because they want to drop the old API sooner rather
> > than later.
> > 
> > thanks,
> > 
> > greg k-h
> > 
> 
> You need the hardware though?

Nope, not at all.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-23 22:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2017-08-22 10:52 ` Don't know where to start linux kernel programming SUNIL KHORWAL
2017-08-22 11:14   ` Kamil Konieczny
2017-08-22 11:15     ` SUNIL KHORWAL
2017-08-22 22:52       ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-08-22 16:48     ` Cindy-Sue Causey
2017-08-22 16:59       ` valdis.kletnieks at vt.edu
2017-08-22 17:39         ` Greg KH
2017-08-23 15:36           ` Umair Khan
2017-08-23 22:57             ` Greg KH
2017-08-25  2:34               ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-08-23 20:08           ` Ruben Safir
2017-08-23 22:56             ` Greg KH [this message]
2017-08-22 23:26       ` Greg Freemyer
2017-08-23  9:34         ` Ruben Safir
2017-08-23 12:24           ` Daniel.
2017-08-23 23:46           ` Greg Freemyer
2017-08-24  0:03             ` Ruben Safir
2017-08-24  0:23               ` Greg Freemyer
2017-08-24  0:46               ` Greg KH
2017-08-24  1:56                 ` Ruben Safir
2017-08-22 15:04   ` valdis.kletnieks at vt.edu
2017-08-22 22:55   ` Tobin C. Harding

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