Regarding Kernel Project

Regarding Kernel Project

[ashutosh mishra]

hi 
>i want to devlop a linux  project..which is best use in industries....
>i dont hav any idea about where to start...can you provide.....some idea...from where to start...
>i hav lot of interest..in linux...device driver... 		 	   		  
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Regarding Kernel Project

[Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar]

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, ashutosh mishra <
kumarmishra.ashutosh@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  hi
> >i want to devlop a linux  project..which is best use in industries....
> >i dont hav any idea about where to start...can you provide.....some
> idea...from where to start...
> >i hav lot of interest..in linux...device driver...
>
>
Repeatedly it has been said on this list
PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK(yes, all caps)

here is your site:
http://kernelnewbies.org/

and if you specifically want some more answers dig here:
http://kernelnewbies.org/mailinglistguidelines

your question is too vague to be answered, dig more on these sites and then
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Regarding Kernel Project

[Victor Rodriguez]

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
<chambilkethakur@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, ashutosh mishra
> <kumarmishra.ashutosh@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> hi
>> >i want to devlop a linux? project..which is best use in industries....
>> >i dont hav any idea about where to start...can you provide.....some
>> > idea...from where to start...
>> >i hav lot of interest..in linux...device driver...
>>



Hey which kind of project? control ? signals? power management ?
automation ?? what architecture arm?? which hardware ??

Focus on what do you want with details and I can help you

Regards

Victor Rodriguez

> Repeatedly it has been said on this list
> PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK(yes, all caps)
>
> here is your site:
> http://kernelnewbies.org/
>
> and if you specifically want some more answers dig here:
> http://kernelnewbies.org/mailinglistguidelines
>
> your question is too vague to be answered, dig more on these sites and then
> ask specific query.
>
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Regarding Kernel Project

[Mohit Varma]

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Victor Rodriguez <vm.rod25@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
> <chambilkethakur@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, ashutosh mishra
> > <kumarmishra.ashutosh@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> hi
> >> >i want to devlop a linux  project..which is best use in industries....
> >> >i dont hav any idea about where to start...can you provide.....some
> >> > idea...from where to start...
> >> >i hav lot of interest..in linux...device driver...
> >>
>
>
>
> Hey which kind of project? control ? signals? power management ?
> automation ?? what architecture arm?? which hardware ??
>
> Focus on what do you want with details and I can help you
>
> Regards
>
> Victor Rodriguez
>
> > Repeatedly it has been said on this list
> > PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK(yes, all caps)
> >
> > here is your site:
> > http://kernelnewbies.org/
> >
> > and if you specifically want some more answers dig here:
> > http://kernelnewbies.org/mailinglistguidelines
> >
> > your question is too vague to be answered, dig more on these sites and
> then
> > ask specific query.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Kernelnewbies mailing list
> > Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
> > http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
> >
> >
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Hello Everyone,

I have been a member of the mailing list for quite a while now.Over a period
of time I have seen new people coming in and making valuable
contributions.However, I feel in due course we have become a little
intolerant towards 'Newbies' - for whom this list is.There is a lot of
yelling / shouting happening which ideally shouldn't happen no matter how
inappropriate / irrelevant the question is. Please understand :

   - we are not dealing with the same set of people everytime...new people
   are joining the list if not everyday perhaps every week.These people come
   from varied backgrounds, various nationalities, different circumstances,
   different motives / ambitions, different skillsets, different mindset.They
   *might* /(might not) follow a set laid down pattern of this mailing list.
   - Moreover, This list is about Newbies ...people who are just starting
   out and many of them are just exploring this domain ...not even sure whether
   they belong here or not.We must be patient with them. *Yelling / shouting
   will just spread bitterness & resentment and puts so many others on the
   defensive*.Newbies is all about committing your share of mistakes and
   learning from them.Serious ones will learn & mature whereas others will join
   some other stream.
   - lastly, if one finds a question silly / dumb (which has been asked
   umpteenth time) ...then to say the least "*Pls don't respond*" to that
   query.I think no one is indispensable here to have earned the right to shout
   at people

just wanted to make the above stated points so that we continue doing great
work...with malice towards none.
These points were not meant to offend anyone...if I have I apologies.

Regards,

Mohit
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Regarding Kernel Project

[Pein Junior]

Well said Mohit, but problem I am having is to find something in the kernel janitor section that's for Newbie but can not find any simple link to click to look at code and adjust and compile. I read all I need already just need to apply myself.

Also interesting in wireless devices.


Thanks in advance

Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:51:41 +0530
Subject: Re: Regarding Kernel Project
From: mohit.varma01@gmail.com
To: kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org




On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Victor Rodriguez <vm.rod25@gmail.com> wrote:


On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
<chambilkethakur@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, ashutosh mishra

> <kumarmishra.ashutosh@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> hi
>> >i want to devlop a linux  project..which is best use in industries....

>> >i dont hav any idea about where to start...can you provide.....some
>> > idea...from where to start...
>> >i hav lot of interest..in linux...device driver...
>>




Hey which kind of project? control ? signals? power management ?
automation ?? what architecture arm?? which hardware ??

Focus on what do you want with details and I can help you

Regards

Victor Rodriguez



> Repeatedly it has been said on this list
> PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK(yes, all caps)
>
> here is your site:
> http://kernelnewbies.org/

>
> and if you specifically want some more answers dig here:
> http://kernelnewbies.org/mailinglistguidelines
>
> your question is too vague to be answered, dig more on these sites and then

> ask specific query.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Kernelnewbies mailing list
> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org

> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
>
>

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Hello Everyone,
 
I have been a member of the mailing list for quite a while now.Over a period of time I have seen new people coming in and making valuable contributions.However, I feel in due course we have become a little intolerant towards 'Newbies' - for whom this list is.There is a lot of yelling / shouting happening which ideally shouldn't happen no matter how inappropriate / irrelevant the question is. Please understand :


we are not dealing with the same set of people everytime...new people are joining the list if not everyday perhaps every week.These people come from varied backgrounds, various nationalities, different circumstances, different motives / ambitions, different skillsets, different mindset.They might /(might not) follow a set laid down pattern of this mailing list.

Moreover, This list is about Newbies ...people who are just starting out and many of them are just exploring this domain ...not even sure whether they belong here or not.We must be patient with them. Yelling / shouting will just spread bitterness & resentment and puts so many others on the defensive.Newbies is all about committing your share of mistakes and learning from them.Serious ones will learn & mature whereas others will join some other stream.

lastly, if one finds a question silly / dumb (which has been asked umpteenth time) ...then to say the least "Pls don't respond" to that query.I think no one is indispensable here to have earned the right to shout at people

just wanted to make the above stated points so that we continue doing great work...with malice towards none.
These points were not meant to offend anyone...if I have I apologies.
 
Regards,
 
Mohit

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Regarding Kernel Project

[vinit agrawal]

how about writing a device driver for those new 3G and 4G wireless devices..
they come with PCIe and USB joining.  I don't know if a driver is written
for any such device. but these new devices have already started hitting the
market, and i would mostly be interested in working on the cheapest of them
all.

I don't have a laptop right now, but as soon as i get one i would surely
want to attach one of these GSM modem in linux.
If anyone did decided to work on it, i would love to work together.
or if anyone is working on it right now, please let me know

--Vinit
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:54 AM, Pein Junior <salmon2k3@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Well said Mohit, but problem I am having is to find something in the kernel
> janitor section that's for Newbie but can not find any simple link to click
> to look at code and adjust and compile. I read all I need already just need
> to apply myself.
>
> Also interesting in wireless devices.
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:51:41 +0530
> Subject: Re: Regarding Kernel Project
> From: mohit.varma01 at gmail.com
> To: kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Victor Rodriguez <vm.rod25@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
> <chambilkethakur@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, ashutosh mishra
> > <kumarmishra.ashutosh@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> hi
> >> >i want to devlop a linux  project..which is best use in industries....
> >> >i dont hav any idea about where to start...can you provide.....some
> >> > idea...from where to start...
> >> >i hav lot of interest..in linux...device driver...
> >>
>
>
>
> Hey which kind of project? control ? signals? power management ?
> automation ?? what architecture arm?? which hardware ??
>
> Focus on what do you want with details and I can help you
>
> Regards
>
> Victor Rodriguez
>
> > Repeatedly it has been said on this list
> > PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK(yes, all caps)
> >
> > here is your site:
> > http://kernelnewbies.org/
> >
> > and if you specifically want some more answers dig here:
> > http://kernelnewbies.org/mailinglistguidelines
> >
> > your question is too vague to be answered, dig more on these sites and
> then
> > ask specific query.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Kernelnewbies mailing list
> > Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
> > http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Kernelnewbies mailing list
> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have been a member of the mailing list for quite a while now.Over a
> period of time I have seen new people coming in and making valuable
> contributions.However, I feel in due course we have become a little
> intolerant towards 'Newbies' - for whom this list is.There is a lot of
> yelling / shouting happening which ideally shouldn't happen no matter how
> inappropriate / irrelevant the question is. Please understand :
>
>    - we are not dealing with the same set of people everytime...new people
>    are joining the list if not everyday perhaps every week.These people come
>    from varied backgrounds, various nationalities, different circumstances,
>    different motives / ambitions, different skillsets, different mindset.They
>    *might* /(might not) follow a set laid down pattern of this mailing
>    list.
>    - Moreover, This list is about Newbies ...people who are just starting
>    out and many of them are just exploring this domain ...not even sure whether
>    they belong here or not.We must be patient with them. *Yelling /
>    shouting will just spread bitterness & resentment and puts so many others on
>    the defensive*.Newbies is all about committing your share of mistakes
>    and learning from them.Serious ones will learn & mature whereas others will
>    join some other stream.
>    - lastly, if one finds a question silly / dumb (which has been asked
>    umpteenth time) ...then to say the least "*Pls don't respond*" to that
>    query.I think no one is indispensable here to have earned the right to shout
>    at people
>
> just wanted to make the above stated points so that we continue doing great
> work...with malice towards none.
> These points were not meant to offend anyone...if I have I apologies.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mohit
>
> _______________________________________________ Kernelnewbies mailing list
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Regarding Kernel Project

[Javier Martinez Canillas]

On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Pein Junior <salmon2k3@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well said Mohit, but problem I am having is to find something in the kernel
> janitor section that's for Newbie but can not find any simple link to click
> to look at code and adjust and compile. I read all I need already just need
> to apply myself.
>

Well you could start looking at your hardware drivers source code and
try to improve it.

If you want some code that you can adjust and compile, LDD3 book comes
with example drivers for memory devices . Maybe you can start
modifiying these drivers to learn how kernel drivers works.

I create a project that contains all the LDD3 book examples updated to
compile and work with recent kernels, you can find the source code
here:

https://github.com/martinezjavier/ldd3

> Also interesting in wireless devices.
>
>

http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers

There you can find todo-list, GSoC ideas and wireless developer
summits notes. So you can know what kind of work is needed in the
wireless subsystem.

-- 
Best regards,

-----------------------------------------
Javier Mart?nez Canillas
(+34) 682 39 81 69

Regarding Kernel Project

[Greg KH]

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 02:13:30AM +0530, vinit agrawal wrote:
> how about writing a device driver for those new 3G and 4G wireless devices..

We should already have drivers for all of these in Linux already.  If
not, please let me know.

sorry,

greg k-h

Regarding Kernel Project

[loody]

hi:

2011/1/19 Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 02:13:30AM +0530, vinit agrawal wrote:
>> how about writing a device driver for those new 3G and 4G wireless devices..
>
> We should already have drivers for all of these in Linux already. ?If
> not, please let me know.
>
> sorry,
>
> greg k-h
is there a list that can tell me what brands of wusb that linux support?
BTW, where I can find the spec of usb about 3g or 4g are they are the
same as wusb?

Thanks a lot,
miloody

Regarding Kernel Project

[Greg KH]

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 02:46:07PM +0800, loody wrote:
> hi:
> 
> 2011/1/19 Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>:
> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 02:13:30AM +0530, vinit agrawal wrote:
> >> how about writing a device driver for those new 3G and 4G wireless devices..
> >
> > We should already have drivers for all of these in Linux already. ?If
> > not, please let me know.
> >
> > sorry,
> >
> > greg k-h
> is there a list that can tell me what brands of wusb that linux support?

Nope, but it's pretty much all of them at the moment.

> BTW, where I can find the spec of usb about 3g or 4g are they are the
> same as wusb?

There is no such spec, sorry.

And no, it is _very_ different from wusb, thankfully.  It's usually a
trivial pipe to the device that looks like a cdc-acm modem, or at worse,
a usb to serial connection.

good luck,

greg k-h

Regarding Kernel Project

[Pein Junior]

4g does not work for Linux. It a USB Modem called:
ZTE AX225 USB Modem 

I have 1 and no 4g wifi for Linux.

> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:25:59 -0800
> From: greg at kroah.com
> To: miloody at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Regarding Kernel Project
> CC: mohit.varma01 at gmail.com; vender007 at gmail.com; kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
> 
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 02:46:07PM +0800, loody wrote:
> > hi:
> > 
> > 2011/1/19 Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>:
> > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 02:13:30AM +0530, vinit agrawal wrote:
> > >> how about writing a device driver for those new 3G and 4G wireless devices..
> > >
> > > We should already have drivers for all of these in Linux already.  If
> > > not, please let me know.
> > >
> > > sorry,
> > >
> > > greg k-h
> > is there a list that can tell me what brands of wusb that linux support?
> 
> Nope, but it's pretty much all of them at the moment.
> 
> > BTW, where I can find the spec of usb about 3g or 4g are they are the
> > same as wusb?
> 
> There is no such spec, sorry.
> 
> And no, it is _very_ different from wusb, thankfully.  It's usually a
> trivial pipe to the device that looks like a cdc-acm modem, or at worse,
> a usb to serial connection.
> 
> good luck,
> 
> greg k-h
> 
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Regarding Kernel Project

[Greg KH]

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 01:27:48PM -0500, Pein Junior wrote:
> 4g does not work for Linux. It a USB Modem called:
> ZTE AX225 USB Modem 

What is the USB device and vendor id?  What have you done to try to make
it work?  What kernel version?  What errors did you get?  How did you
try to make a network connection?  What version of NetworkManager and
ModemManager did you use?  We need lots more information here to be able
to help you out :)

thanks,

greg k-h

Regarding Kernel Project

[Pein Junior]

> What is the USB device and vendor id? 

Hope this manual help explaining all that.

http://digicel4gbroadband.com/assets/uploads/WiMAX_USB_Dongle_Modem_G_____AX_225_Quick_Start_Guide.pdf


>What have you done to try to make it work?  
>What kernel version?  What errors did you get?

my USB ports working fine, with the latest kernel and no errors because it didn't show any new hardware connected.
And it comes with its own installation when its connected to a windows pc with the ISP name. works on 2.5GHz, they call it WiMax.
 		 	   		  
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[Greg KH]

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 09:11:53PM -0500, Pein Junior wrote:
> 
> 
> > What is the USB device and vendor id? 
> 
> Hope this manual help explaining all that.
> 
> http://digicel4gbroadband.com/assets/uploads/WiMAX_USB_Dongle_Modem_G_____AX_225_Quick_Start_Guide.pdf

No, what is the output of 'lsusb' with it plugged in?

> 
> >What have you done to try to make it work?  
> >What kernel version?  What errors did you get?
> 
> my USB ports working fine, with the latest kernel and no errors because it didn't show any new hardware connected.
> And it comes with its own installation when its connected to a windows pc with the ISP name. works on 2.5GHz, they call it WiMax.

You didn't answer all of the questions :(

What does the kernel log show when you plug in the device?  Can you send
the output of 'dmesg'?  Clear out the buffer before you plug it in:
	dmesg -c
then plug in the device, then save the output of the kernel log and send
it in your reply to this message:
	dmesg > kernel_log

thanks,

greg k-h

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[Mulyadi Santosa]

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:01, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 09:11:53PM -0500, Pein Junior wrote:
>>
>>
>> > What is the USB device and vendor id?
>>
>> Hope this manual help explaining all that.

Guys, I don't wanna ruin your discussion, but don't you think it's OOT
now? or are we going to rename this list as chitchat at vger.org?

-- 
regards,

Mulyadi Santosa
Freelance Linux trainer and consultant

blog: the-hydra.blogspot.com
training: mulyaditraining.blogspot.com

Regarding Kernel Project

[Greg KH]

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:32:39PM +0700, Mulyadi Santosa wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:01, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 09:11:53PM -0500, Pein Junior wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > What is the USB device and vendor id?
> >>
> >> Hope this manual help explaining all that.
> 
> Guys, I don't wanna ruin your discussion, but don't you think it's OOT
> now? or are we going to rename this list as chitchat at vger.org?

This is how you both solve bugs, and learn about solving them yourself.

I'll be glad to take this to the linux-usb or linux-kernel lists, as
this type of conversation is quite common there, so why wouldn't it also
be common here?

If it's annoying you, I suggest getting a better email client, one that
lets you mark any thread as "ignored" so we don't bother you.

best of luck,

greg k-h