Kernel developer proccess

Kernel developer proccess

[Panagiotis Filippakopoulos]

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Hello. I would like to ask, what your advise would be to a person that
wants to get in the kernel development industry, without having a coputer
science degree. I attended some classes for computer science, but due to
some difficulties i left after the first semester. During that time we
learned a little bit about operating systems and the basics of programming.
Is learning operating systems C and Assembly, for a specific architecture,
(e.g. x86) a good start? What should my steps be after that? Thank you in
advance.

Filippakopoulos Panagiotis

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Re: Kernel developer proccess

[jim.cromie]

On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 5:21 PM Panagiotis Filippakopoulos
<filippakpan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello. I would like to ask, what your advise would be to a person that wants to get in the kernel development industry, without having a coputer science degree. I attended some classes for computer science, but due to some difficulties i left after the first semester. During that time we learned a little bit about operating systems and the basics of programming. Is learning operating systems C and Assembly, for a specific architecture, (e.g. x86) a good start? What should my steps be after that? Thank you in advance.
>
> Filippakopoulos Panagiotis


You should start smaller.
C is hard.  kernel programming is harder.
You should definitely learn several other languages 1st
Python for example.

But really, if you havent already,
you should start by getting a Linux distro running on a cheap laptop.
Then you can scratch any itch.
and youll have the tools, like a compiler to complain about your syntax errors


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Re: Kernel developer proccess

[Denis Kirjanov]

On 3/22/23 02:20, Panagiotis Filippakopoulos wrote:
> Hello. I would like to ask, what your advise would be to a person that
> wants to get in the kernel development industry, without having a coputer
> science degree. I attended some classes for computer science, but due to
> some difficulties i left after the first semester. During that time we
> learned a little bit about operating systems and the basics of programming.
> Is learning operating systems C and Assembly, for a specific architecture,
> (e.g. x86) a good start? What should my steps be after that? Thank you in
> advance.

Start from running tests like LTP
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Re: Kernel developer proccess

[Aruna Hewapathirane]

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>On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 7:21 PM Panagiotis Filippakopoulos <
filippakpan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello. I would like to ask, what your advise would be to a person that
wants to get in the kernel development industry, without having a coputer
science degree. I attended some classes for computer science, but due to
some difficulties i left after the first semester. During that time we
learned a little bit about operating systems and the basics of programming.
Is learning operating systems C and Assembly, for a specific architecture,
(e.g. x86) a good start? What should my steps be after that? Thank you in
advance.
>
> Filippakopoulos Panagiotis

Read the documentation :
https://docs.kernel.org/process/development-process.html

Read this by Valdis again and again... ( and again! )
https://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/2017-April/017765.html

After reading the above by Valdis go ahead and give it a go, this is how I
started.

When I said read the documentation...

If you think about it there is no better documentation than the actual
source code. Reading the source
is one thing... understanding/comprehending it is totally another  :-)

Hope this helps!

Aruna

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Re: Kernel developer proccess

[Valentin Vidić]

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 01:20:45AM +0200, Panagiotis Filippakopoulos wrote:
> Hello. I would like to ask, what your advise would be to a person that
> wants to get in the kernel development industry, without having a coputer
> science degree. I attended some classes for computer science, but due to
> some difficulties i left after the first semester. During that time we
> learned a little bit about operating systems and the basics of programming.
> Is learning operating systems C and Assembly, for a specific architecture,
> (e.g. x86) a good start? What should my steps be after that? Thank you in
> advance.

I think it will take a lot of time and work. To check if you really want
to do it here is a recent article:

https://people.kernel.org/linusw/the-arm32-scheduling-and-kernelspace-userspace-boundary

Try to read and understand it. It links to some code, so try to read and
understand that too. If you get stuck on something, do some research and
ask questions. After that you should have a better idea if you like it
and want to continue.

-- 
Valentin

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