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From: "K.Prasad" <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: oomichi@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp, "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tachibana@mxm.nes.nec.co.jp, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	anderson@redhat.com, "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	crash-utility@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Patch 1/4][kernel][slimdump] Add new elf-note of type NT_NOCOREDUMP to capture slimdump
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 13:11:16 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111005074116.GC2235@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111004143012.GB28306@redhat.com>

On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 10:30:12AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 01:02:03PM +0530, K.Prasad wrote:
> > There are certain types of crashes induced by faulty hardware in which
> > capturing crashing kernel's memory (through kdump) makes no sense (or sometimes
> > dangerous).
> > 
> > A case in point, is unrecoverable memory errors (resulting in fatal machine
> > check exceptions) in which reading from the faulty memory location from the
> > kexec'ed kernel will cause double fault and system reset (leaving no
> > information for the user).
> > 
> > This patch introduces a framework called 'slimdump' enabled through a new
> > elf-note NT_NOCOREDUMP. Any error whose cause cannot be attributed to a
> > software error and cannot be detected by analysing the kernel memory may
> > decide to add this elf-note to the vmcore and indicate the futility of
> > such an exercise. Tools such as 'kexec', 'makedumpfile' and 'crash' are
> > also modified in tandem to recognise this new elf-note and capture
> > 'slimdump'.
> > 
> > The physical address and size of the NT_NOCOREDUMP are made available to the
> > user-space through a "/sys/kernel/nt_nocoredump" sysfs file (just like other
> > kexec related files).
> 
> Even if kernel has to signal to user space the reason for crash, why not
> add this info to existing vmcoreinfo note. Something like another filed.
> PANIC_MCE=1.
> 
> Secondly, the note name NT_NOCOREDUMP itself sounds binding. Kernel can
> export the reason of panic and then it is up to user space what do they
> want to do with it.
> 

Like I mentioned here:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1199466, we can bring in fine-grained
message headers or note-types based on other users of this framework.

> So to me,  
> 
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: K.Prasad <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > ---
> >  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/mce.c |   28 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  include/linux/elf.h              |   18 ++++++++++++++++++
> >  include/linux/kexec.h            |    1 +
> >  kernel/kexec.c                   |   11 +++++++++++
> >  kernel/ksysfs.c                  |   10 ++++++++++
> >  5 files changed, 68 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/mce.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/mce.c
> > index 08363b0..483b2fc 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/mce.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/mce.c
> > @@ -238,6 +238,34 @@ static atomic_t mce_paniced;
> >  static int fake_panic;
> >  static atomic_t mce_fake_paniced;
> >  
> > +void arch_add_nocoredump_note(u32 *buf)
> > +{
> > +	struct elf_note note;
> > +	const char note_name[] = "PANIC_MCE";
> > +	const char desc_msg[] = "Crash induced due to a fatal machine "
> > +				"check error";
> > +
> 
> Again, note_name and desc_msg seem to be only two exports. Frankly desc
> string seems pretty obivious and we should be able to ignore it. So just
> exporting PANIC_MCE=true or something like that in case of MCE. 
>

Yes, adding a new field to the VMCOREINFO note would have been much
simpler but there's a second part to the kdump + fatal MCE problem which
will need a new elf-note to solve.

On a system containing 'poisoned' pages (generated as a result of
detecting UC errors which haven't been 'consumed'), if a software bug results
in crashing the machine, the ensuing kdump operation will read from the
faulty memory location. This will trigger a new crash within the context
of the kexec'ed kernel and we want to avoid this.

The plan is to pass-down the list of poisoned memory pages to the second
kernel using an elf-note so that these pages are left untouched during
dump capture. I'm working on an implementation of the same and should
have patches soon.

Thanks,
K.Prasad


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-05  7:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-03  7:07 [Patch 0/4] Slimdump framework using NT_NOCOREDUMP elf-note K.Prasad
2011-10-03  7:32 ` [Patch 1/4][kernel][slimdump] Add new elf-note of type NT_NOCOREDUMP to capture slimdump K.Prasad
2011-10-03 10:10   ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-03 12:03     ` K.Prasad
2011-10-04  6:34       ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05  7:07         ` K.Prasad
2011-10-05  7:31           ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05  9:47             ` K.Prasad
2011-10-05 12:41               ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 15:52               ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                 ` <10327.1317830438@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
2011-10-05 16:16                   ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 17:20                     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-05 17:13                   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <26571.1317815746@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
2011-10-05 12:31               ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 15:19           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-05 15:30           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-03 22:53     ` Luck, Tony
2011-10-04 14:04   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-05  7:18     ` K.Prasad
2011-10-05  7:33       ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05  9:23         ` K.Prasad
2011-10-05 15:25       ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-07 16:12         ` K.Prasad
2011-10-10  7:07           ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-11 18:44             ` K.Prasad
2011-10-11 18:59               ` Luck, Tony
2011-10-12  0:20               ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-12 10:44               ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-12 15:59                 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-12 15:51               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-14 11:30                 ` K.Prasad
2011-10-14 14:14                   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-18 17:41                     ` K.Prasad
2011-10-11 18:55             ` Luck, Tony
2011-10-04 14:30   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-05  7:41     ` K.Prasad [this message]
2011-10-05 15:40       ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-05 15:58         ` Luck, Tony
2011-10-05 16:25           ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 17:10           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-05 17:20             ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 17:29               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-05 17:43                 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 18:00                 ` Dave Anderson
2011-10-05 18:09                   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-04 15:04   ` Nick Bowler
2011-10-07 16:36     ` K.Prasad
2011-10-07 18:19       ` Nick Bowler
2011-10-03  7:35 ` [Patch 2/4][kexec-tools] Recognise NT_NOCOREDUMP elf-note type K.Prasad
2011-10-03  7:37 ` [Patch 3/4][makedumpfile] Capture slimdump if elf-note NT_NOCOREDUMP present K.Prasad
2011-10-03  7:45 ` [Patch 4/4][crash] Recognise elf-note of type NT_NOCOREDUMP before vmcore analysis K.Prasad

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