From: "K.Prasad" <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: oomichi@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp, "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tachibana@mxm.nes.nec.co.jp,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
anderson@redhat.com, "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
crash-utility@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Patch 1/4][kernel][slimdump] Add new elf-note of type NT_NOCOREDUMP to capture slimdump
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 21:42:19 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111007161218.GA2297@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111005152537.GB30146@redhat.com>
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 11:25:37AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 12:48:44PM +0530, K.Prasad wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 10:04:37AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 01:02:03PM +0530, K.Prasad wrote:
> > > > There are certain types of crashes induced by faulty hardware in which
> > > > capturing crashing kernel's memory (through kdump) makes no sense (or sometimes
> > > > dangerous).
> > > >
> > > > A case in point, is unrecoverable memory errors (resulting in fatal machine
> > > > check exceptions) in which reading from the faulty memory location from the
> > > > kexec'ed kernel will cause double fault and system reset (leaving no
> > > > information for the user).
> > >
> > > Prasad,
> > >
> > > I am just trying to remember what was wrong with Andi's approach of
> > > disable MCE while copying the dump?
> > >
> >
> > Hi Vivek,
> > The behaviour upon a read operation on an UC memory location is
> > undefined and so we want to avoid it (previously discussed here:
> > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1146799).
>
> > When we disable MCE and copy the dump, we will invariably read the faulty
> > memory location.
>
> And how that is worse then not capturing a dump at all? Anyway, you said
> that in case of MCE vmcore is of no use and we don't want to capture it.
>
The problem, as pointed out by Borislav Petkov in a different mail, is that
we might end up capturing a vmcore containing corrupted data when the
same is not required for analysing the cause of the crash.
Of course, all this is assuming that reading the faulty memory with MCE
disabled is harmless. However, the effect of a read operation in this
case is undefined.
Thanks,
K.Prasad
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-03 7:07 [Patch 0/4] Slimdump framework using NT_NOCOREDUMP elf-note K.Prasad
2011-10-03 7:32 ` [Patch 1/4][kernel][slimdump] Add new elf-note of type NT_NOCOREDUMP to capture slimdump K.Prasad
2011-10-03 10:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-10-03 12:03 ` K.Prasad
2011-10-04 6:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 7:07 ` K.Prasad
2011-10-05 7:31 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 9:47 ` K.Prasad
2011-10-05 12:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 15:52 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <10327.1317830438@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
2011-10-05 16:16 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 17:20 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-05 17:13 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <26571.1317815746@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
2011-10-05 12:31 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 15:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-05 15:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-03 22:53 ` Luck, Tony
2011-10-04 14:04 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-05 7:18 ` K.Prasad
2011-10-05 7:33 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 9:23 ` K.Prasad
2011-10-05 15:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-07 16:12 ` K.Prasad [this message]
2011-10-10 7:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-11 18:44 ` K.Prasad
2011-10-11 18:59 ` Luck, Tony
2011-10-12 0:20 ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-12 10:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-12 15:59 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-12 15:51 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-14 11:30 ` K.Prasad
2011-10-14 14:14 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-18 17:41 ` K.Prasad
2011-10-11 18:55 ` Luck, Tony
2011-10-04 14:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-05 7:41 ` K.Prasad
2011-10-05 15:40 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-05 15:58 ` Luck, Tony
2011-10-05 16:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 17:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-05 17:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 17:29 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-05 17:43 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-05 18:00 ` Dave Anderson
2011-10-05 18:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-10-04 15:04 ` Nick Bowler
2011-10-07 16:36 ` K.Prasad
2011-10-07 18:19 ` Nick Bowler
2011-10-03 7:35 ` [Patch 2/4][kexec-tools] Recognise NT_NOCOREDUMP elf-note type K.Prasad
2011-10-03 7:37 ` [Patch 3/4][makedumpfile] Capture slimdump if elf-note NT_NOCOREDUMP present K.Prasad
2011-10-03 7:45 ` [Patch 4/4][crash] Recognise elf-note of type NT_NOCOREDUMP before vmcore analysis K.Prasad
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