From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Atsushi Kumagai <kumagai-atsushi@mxc.nes.nec.co.jp>
Cc: "d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com" <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"kexec@lists.infradead.org" <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
"zzou@redhat.com" <zzou@redhat.com>,
"bhe@redhat.com" <bhe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] makedumpfile: change the wrong code to calculate bufsize_cyclic for elf dump
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 08:50:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140428125025.GA4751@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0910DD04CBD6DE4193FCF86B9C00BE9720DE3D@BPXM01GP.gisp.nec.co.jp>
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 05:05:00AM +0000, Atsushi Kumagai wrote:
> >On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 07:50:41AM +0800, bhe@redhat.com wrote:
> >> On 04/23/14 at 01:08pm, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> >>
> >> > > - bitmap size: used for 1st and 2nd bitmaps
> >> > > - remains: can be used for the other works of makedumpfile (e.g. I/O buffer)
> >> > >
> >> > > pattern | bitmap size | remains
> >> > > ----------------------------------------------+---------------+-------------
> >> > > A. 100G memory with the too allocation bug | 12.8 MB | 17.2 MB
> >> > > B. 100G memory with fixed makedumpfile | 6.4 MB | 23.6 MB
> >> > > C. 200G memory with fixed makedumpfile | 12.8 MB | 17.2 MB
> >> > > D. 300G memory with fixed makedumpfile | 19.2 MB | 10.8 MB
> >> > > E. 400G memory with fixed makedumpfile | 24.0 MB | 6.0 MB
> >> > > F. 500G memory with fixed makedumpfile | 24.0 MB | 6.0 MB
> >> > > ...
> >> > >
> >> > > Baoquan got OOM in A pattern and didn't get it in B, so C must also
> >> > > fail due to OOM. This is just what I wanted to say.
> >> >
> >> > ok, So here bitmap size is growing because we have not hit the 80% of
> >> > available memory limit yet. But it gets limited at 24MB once we hit
> >> > 80% limit. I think that's fine. That's what I was looking for.
> >> >
> >> > Now key question will remain is that is using 80% of free memory by
> >> > bitmaps too much. Are other things happening in system which consume
> >> > memory and because memory is not available OOM hits. If that's the
> >> > case we probably need to lower the amount of memory allocated to
> >> > bit maps. Say 70% or 60% or may be 50%. But this should be data driven.
> >>
> >> How about add anoter limit, say left memory safety limit, e.g 20M. If
> >> the remaining memory which is 20% of free memory is bigger than 20M, 80%
> >> can be taken to calculate the bitmap size. If smaller than 20M, we just
> >> take (total memory - safety limit) for bitmap size.
> >
> >I think doing another internal limit for makedumpfile usage sounds fine.
> >So say, if makedumpfile needs 5MB of memory for purposes other than
> >bitmap, then remove 5MB from total memory and then take 80% of remaining
> >memory to calculate bitmap size. I think that should be reasonable.
> >
> >Tricky bit here is to figure out how much memory does makedumpfile need.
>
> Did you said using such value is bad idea since it's hard to update it?
> If we got the needed memory size, it would be changing every version.
> At least I think this may be an ideal way but not practical.
Yep, I am not too convinced about fixing makedumpfile memory usage at
a particular value.
>
> >A simpler solution will be to just reserve 60% of total memory for bitmaps
> >and leave rest for makedumpfile and kernel and other components.
>
> That's just specific tuning for you and Baoquan.
>
> Now, I think this case is just lack of free memory caused by
> inappropriate parameter setting for your environment. You should
> increase crashkernel= to get enough free memory, 166M may be too
> small for your environment.
I don't think it is bad tuning from our side. makedumpfile has 30MB free
memory when it was launched and still OOM happened.
30MB should be more than enough to save dump.
>
> By the way, I'm going on holiday for 8 days, I can't reply
> during that period. Thanks in advance.
Sure, talk to you more about this once you are back.
Thanks
Vivek
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-28 14:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-10 21:44 makedumpfile memmory usage seems high with option -E Vivek Goyal
2014-04-11 9:22 ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-04-11 10:19 ` Arthur Zou
2014-04-14 8:02 ` [PATCH] makedumpfile: change the wrong code to calculate bufsize_cyclic for elf dump Baoquan He
2014-04-14 8:11 ` Baoquan He
2014-04-16 6:44 ` Baoquan He
2014-04-17 4:01 ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-04-17 4:52 ` bhe
2014-04-17 5:02 ` bhe
2014-04-18 9:22 ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-04-18 14:29 ` bhe
2014-04-18 19:41 ` Petr Tesarik
2014-04-21 15:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-21 15:46 ` Petr Tesarik
2014-04-21 15:51 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-21 15:14 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 11:09 ` bhe
2014-04-21 15:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 7:55 ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-04-23 11:55 ` bhe
2014-04-23 17:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 23:50 ` bhe
2014-04-24 2:05 ` bhe
2014-04-25 13:22 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-28 5:05 ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-04-28 12:50 ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2014-05-09 5:36 ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-05-09 20:49 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-05-15 7:22 ` bhe
2014-05-15 9:10 ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-05-19 11:15 ` bhe
2014-05-19 15:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-05-27 5:34 ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-05-27 14:49 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-05-23 7:18 ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-05-14 5:44 ` bhe
2014-04-28 5:04 ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-05-09 5:35 ` Atsushi Kumagai
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