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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Atsushi Kumagai <kumagai-atsushi@mxc.nes.nec.co.jp>
Cc: "d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com" <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"kexec@lists.infradead.org" <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	"zzou@redhat.com" <zzou@redhat.com>,
	"bhe@redhat.com" <bhe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] makedumpfile: change the wrong code to calculate bufsize_cyclic for elf dump
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 08:50:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140428125025.GA4751@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0910DD04CBD6DE4193FCF86B9C00BE9720DE3D@BPXM01GP.gisp.nec.co.jp>

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 05:05:00AM +0000, Atsushi Kumagai wrote:
> >On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 07:50:41AM +0800, bhe@redhat.com wrote:
> >> On 04/23/14 at 01:08pm, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> >>
> >> > >  - bitmap size: used for 1st and 2nd bitmaps
> >> > >  - remains: can be used for the other works of makedumpfile (e.g. I/O buffer)
> >> > >
> >> > >                  pattern                      |  bitmap size  |   remains
> >> > > ----------------------------------------------+---------------+-------------
> >> > >   A. 100G memory with the too allocation bug  |    12.8 MB    |   17.2 MB
> >> > >   B. 100G memory with fixed makedumpfile      |     6.4 MB    |   23.6 MB
> >> > >   C. 200G memory with fixed makedumpfile      |    12.8 MB    |   17.2 MB
> >> > >   D. 300G memory with fixed makedumpfile      |    19.2 MB    |   10.8 MB
> >> > >   E. 400G memory with fixed makedumpfile      |    24.0 MB    |    6.0 MB
> >> > >   F. 500G memory with fixed makedumpfile      |    24.0 MB    |    6.0 MB
> >> > >   ...
> >> > >
> >> > > Baoquan got OOM in A pattern and didn't get it in B, so C must also
> >> > > fail due to OOM. This is just what I wanted to say.
> >> >
> >> > ok, So here bitmap size is growing because we have not hit the 80% of
> >> > available memory limit yet. But it gets limited at 24MB once we hit
> >> > 80% limit. I think that's fine. That's what I was looking for.
> >> >
> >> > Now key question will remain is that is using 80% of free memory by
> >> > bitmaps too much. Are other things happening in system which consume
> >> > memory and because memory is not available OOM hits. If that's the
> >> > case we probably need to lower the amount of memory allocated to
> >> > bit maps. Say 70% or 60% or may be 50%. But this should be data driven.
> >>
> >> How about add anoter limit, say left memory safety limit, e.g 20M. If
> >> the remaining memory which is 20% of free memory is bigger than 20M, 80%
> >> can be taken to calculate the bitmap size. If smaller than 20M, we just
> >> take (total memory - safety limit) for bitmap size.
> >
> >I think doing another internal limit for makedumpfile usage sounds fine.
> >So say, if makedumpfile needs 5MB of memory for purposes other than
> >bitmap, then remove 5MB from total memory and then take 80% of remaining
> >memory to calculate bitmap size. I think that should be reasonable.
> >
> >Tricky bit here is to figure out how much memory does makedumpfile need.
> 
> Did you said using such value is bad idea since it's hard to update it?
> If we got the needed memory size, it would be changing every version.
> At least I think this may be an ideal way but not practical.

Yep, I am not too convinced about fixing makedumpfile memory usage at
a particular value.

> 
> >A simpler solution will be to just reserve 60% of total memory for bitmaps
> >and leave rest for makedumpfile and kernel and other components.
> 
> That's just specific tuning for you and Baoquan.
> 
> Now, I think this case is just lack of free memory caused by
> inappropriate parameter setting for your environment. You should
> increase crashkernel= to get enough free memory, 166M may be too
> small for your environment.

I don't think it is bad tuning from our side. makedumpfile has 30MB free
memory when it was launched and still OOM happened. 

30MB should be more than enough to save dump. 

> 
> By the way, I'm going on holiday for 8 days, I can't reply
> during that period. Thanks in advance.

Sure, talk to you more about this once you are back.

Thanks
Vivek

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-28 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-10 21:44 makedumpfile memmory usage seems high with option -E Vivek Goyal
2014-04-11  9:22 ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-04-11 10:19   ` Arthur Zou
2014-04-14  8:02     ` [PATCH] makedumpfile: change the wrong code to calculate bufsize_cyclic for elf dump Baoquan He
2014-04-14  8:11       ` Baoquan He
2014-04-16  6:44       ` Baoquan He
2014-04-17  4:01         ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-04-17  4:52           ` bhe
2014-04-17  5:02             ` bhe
2014-04-18  9:22               ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-04-18 14:29                 ` bhe
2014-04-18 19:41                   ` Petr Tesarik
2014-04-21 15:19                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-21 15:46                       ` Petr Tesarik
2014-04-21 15:51                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-21 15:14                   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 11:09                     ` bhe
2014-04-21 15:12                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23  7:55                   ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-04-23 11:55                     ` bhe
2014-04-23 17:08                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 23:50                       ` bhe
2014-04-24  2:05                         ` bhe
2014-04-25 13:22                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-28  5:05                           ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-04-28 12:50                             ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2014-05-09  5:36                               ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-05-09 20:49                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-05-15  7:22                                   ` bhe
2014-05-15  9:10                                     ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-05-19 11:15                                       ` bhe
2014-05-19 15:11                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-05-27  5:34                                           ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-05-27 14:49                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-05-23  7:18                                         ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-05-14  5:44                                 ` bhe
2014-04-28  5:04                       ` Atsushi Kumagai
2014-05-09  5:35                         ` Atsushi Kumagai

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