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From: "Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>
To: Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>
Cc: Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>,
	horms@verge.net.au, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	Tony Jones <tonyj@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/5] kexec: document -s, -c and -a options.
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:01:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180316170159.1ee5bfbe@kitsune.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180316065114.GB11233@dhcp-128-65.nay.redhat.com>

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 14:51:14 +0800
Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 03/15/18 at 12:44pm, Michal Suchánek wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 15:50:31 +0800
> > Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > On 03/14/18 at 08:25am, Michal Suchánek wrote:  
> > > > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:41:30 +0800
> > > > Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >     
> > > > > On 03/06/18 at 02:15pm, Michal Suchanek wrote:    
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Michal Suchanek <msuchanek@suse.de>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  kexec/kexec.8 | 15 +++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  1 file changed, 15 insertions(+)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/kexec/kexec.8 b/kexec/kexec.8
> > > > > > index e0131b4ea827..b3543db3f413 100644
> > > > > > --- a/kexec/kexec.8
> > > > > > +++ b/kexec/kexec.8
> > > > > > @@ -144,6 +144,21 @@ Load the new kernel for use on panic.
> > > > > >  Specify that the new kernel is of this
> > > > > >  .I type.
> > > > > >  .TP
> > > > > > +.BI \-s\ (\-\-kexec-file-syscall)
> > > > > > +Specify that the new KEXEC_FILE_LOAD syscall should be used
> > > > > > exclusively.      
> > > > > 
> > > > > Maybe better to be simple like below:
> > > > > "Use kexec_file_load syscall to load the new kernel."
> > > > > 
> > > > >     
> > > > > > +.TP
> > > > > > +.BI \-c\ (\-\-kexec-syscall)
> > > > > > +Specify that the old KEXEC_LOAD syscall should be used
> > > > > > exclusively (the default).      
> > > > > 
> > > > > similarly:
> > > > > "Use kexec_load syscall to load the new kernel."
> > > > >     
> > > > > > +.TP
> > > > > > +.BI \-a\ (\-\-kexec-syscall-auto)
> > > > > > +Try the new simpler KEXEC_FILE_LOAD syscall first and if
> > > > > > it is not supported +fall back to the old KEXEC_LOAD
> > > > > > interface. +
> > > > > > +There is no one single interface that always works.
> > > > > > KEXEC_FILE_LOAD is required +on systems that use locked-down
> > > > > > secure boot to verify the kernel signature. +KEXEC_LOAD is
> > > > > > required for some kernel image formats and on architectures
> > > > > > that +do not support KEXEC_FILE_LOAD.      
> > > > > 
> > > > > It seems not good to say kexec_file_load is simpler and newer.
> > > > > Also it is not a must for Secure Boot and locked down kernel
> > > > > only. So it would be better to just simplify and use the first
> > > > > paragraph:
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Try kexec_file_load syscall first and if it is not supported
> > > > > fall back to the kexec_load syscall"    
> > > > 
> > > > There was a request for explanation so just the first paragraph
> > > > will not do. What is it required for other than secure boot?    
> > > 
> > > People can use kexec -s to load a signed kernel but not necessary
> > > to boot with Secure Boot enabled.  
> > 
> > Is booting signed kernel without -s not supported? If so I would
> > consider it kexec-tools bug. And it should documented then as well I
> > guess.  
> 
> I'm not sure I understand the question.  In kernel we splitted kexec
> and kexec_file they can be enabled as kernel config options
> separately.  If one want to a secured kexec (not UEFI Secure Boot,
> only signed kernel loading) then one can only enable
> CONFIG_KEXEC_FILE but disable CONFIG_KEXEC.  In this case without
> '-s' load will fail.  But if one enabled both CONFIG_KEXEC_FILE and
> CONFIG_KEXEC then kexec load without '-s' still works.

This is currently not supported by kexec-tools. Status does not use
KEXEC_FILE

Thanks

Michal

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-16 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-26 12:00 [PATCH 1/5] kexec: Return -ENOSYS when kexec does not know how to call KEXEC_FILE_LOAD Michal Suchanek
2018-02-26 12:00 ` [PATCH 2/5] kexec: do not special-case the -s option Michal Suchanek
2018-03-02 12:36   ` Simon Horman
2018-03-02 13:38     ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-05  6:38       ` Simon Horman
2018-02-26 12:00 ` [PATCH 3/5] kexec: add option to revert -s Michal Suchanek
2018-02-26 12:00 ` [PATCH 4/5] kexec: fallback to KEXEC_LOAD when KEXEC_FILE_LOAD is not supported Michal Suchanek
2018-02-28 13:05   ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-02  9:17   ` Dave Young
2018-03-05 17:49     ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-06 13:15     ` [PATCH v4 1/5] kexec: Return -ENOSYS when kexec does not know how to call KEXEC_FILE_LOAD Michal Suchanek
2018-03-06 13:15     ` [PATCH v4 2/5] kexec: do not special-case the -s option Michal Suchanek
2018-03-15 10:38       ` Simon Horman
2018-03-15 11:13         ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-16 11:20           ` Simon Horman
2018-03-16 11:38             ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-16 11:47               ` Simon Horman
2018-03-06 13:15     ` [PATCH v4 3/5] kexec: add option to revert -s Michal Suchanek
2018-03-06 13:15     ` [PATCH v4 4/5] kexec: add option to fall back to KEXEC_LOAD when KEXEC_FILE_LOAD is not supported Michal Suchanek
2018-03-13 17:30       ` Tony Jones
2018-03-14  3:44         ` Dave Young
2018-03-14  3:21       ` Dave Young
2018-03-15 11:06         ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-16  6:45           ` Dave Young
2018-03-16 11:44             ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-14  3:22       ` Dave Young
2018-03-14  7:23         ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-14  7:48           ` Dave Young
2018-03-06 13:15     ` [PATCH v4 5/5] kexec: document -s, -c and -a options Michal Suchanek
2018-03-14  3:41       ` Dave Young
2018-03-14  7:25         ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-14  7:50           ` Dave Young
2018-03-15 11:44             ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-16  6:51               ` Dave Young
2018-03-16 16:01                 ` Michal Suchánek [this message]
2018-03-14  3:43       ` Dave Young
2018-03-15 11:18         ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-20 15:56     ` [PATCH v5 1/5] kexec: Return -ENOSYS when kexec does not know how to call KEXEC_FILE_LOAD Michal Suchanek
2018-03-26  7:25       ` Simon Horman
2018-03-26  7:53         ` Dave Young
2018-03-26 18:17           ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-27  9:39             ` Dave Young
2018-03-20 15:56     ` [PATCH v5 2/5] kexec: Fix option checks to take KEXEC_FILE_LOAD into account Michal Suchanek
2018-03-20 15:56     ` [PATCH v5 3/5] kexec: Do not special-case the -s option Michal Suchanek
2018-03-20 15:56     ` [PATCH v5 4/5] kexec: Add option to fall back to KEXEC_LOAD when KEXEC_FILE_LOAD is not supported Michal Suchanek
2018-03-26  9:08       ` Dave Young
2018-03-26  9:12         ` Dave Young
2018-03-26 17:38           ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-26 18:52             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2018-03-26 19:07               ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-27  9:59               ` Dave Young
2018-03-28 13:15                 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] kexec: Return -ENOSYS when kexec does not know how to call KEXEC_FILE_LOAD Michal Suchanek
2018-03-28 13:15                   ` [PATCH v6 2/5] kexec: Fix option checks to take KEXEC_FILE_LOAD into account Michal Suchanek
2018-03-28 13:15                   ` [PATCH v6 3/5] kexec: Do not special-case the -s option Michal Suchanek
2018-04-05 11:05                     ` Petr Tesarik
2018-04-09  8:38                       ` Bhupesh Sharma
2018-03-28 13:15                   ` [PATCH v6 4/5] kexec: Add option to revert -s Michal Suchanek
2018-03-28 13:15                   ` [PATCH v6 5/5] kexec: Add option to fall back to KEXEC_LOAD when KEXEC_FILE_LOAD is not supported Michal Suchanek
2018-03-28 13:15                   ` [PATCH 6/6] kexec: Document -s, -c and -a options in the man page Michal Suchanek
2018-03-30  6:29                   ` [PATCH v6 1/5] kexec: Return -ENOSYS when kexec does not know how to call KEXEC_FILE_LOAD Simon Horman
2018-03-30  8:00                     ` Dave Young
2018-03-30  8:46                       ` Simon Horman
2018-03-27 10:06             ` [PATCH v5 4/5] kexec: Add option to fall back to KEXEC_LOAD when KEXEC_FILE_LOAD is not supported Dave Young
2018-03-27 11:01               ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-27 11:10                 ` Petr Tesarik
2018-03-28  0:53                 ` Dave Young
2018-03-28  7:42                   ` Simon Horman
2018-03-20 15:56     ` [PATCH v5 5/5] kexec: Document -s, -c and -a options Michal Suchanek
2018-03-02  9:24   ` [PATCH 4/5] kexec: fallback to KEXEC_LOAD when KEXEC_FILE_LOAD is not supported Dave Young
2018-03-02 12:32     ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-02 12:46       ` Simon Horman
2018-03-02 13:28         ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-02 13:32         ` [PATCH v3 1/5] kexec: Return -ENOSYS when kexec does not know how to call KEXEC_FILE_LOAD Michal Suchanek
2018-03-02 13:33         ` [PATCH v3 2/5] kexec: do not special-case the -s option Michal Suchanek
2018-03-02 13:33         ` [PATCH v3 3/5] kexec: add option to revert -s Michal Suchanek
2018-03-02 13:33         ` [PATCH v3 4/5] kexec: fallback to KEXEC_LOAD when KEXEC_FILE_LOAD is not supported Michal Suchanek
2018-03-02 13:55           ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-05 12:52           ` [PATCH] kexec: add option to fall back " Michal Suchanek
2018-03-02 13:33         ` [PATCH v3 5/5] kexec: document -s, -c and -a options Michal Suchanek
2018-03-05  1:51         ` [PATCH 4/5] kexec: fallback to KEXEC_LOAD when KEXEC_FILE_LOAD is not supported Dave Young
2018-03-02 12:44   ` Simon Horman
2018-03-13 20:43     ` Michal Suchánek
2018-02-26 12:00 ` [PATCH 5/5] kexec: document -s and -c options Michal Suchanek
2018-03-02 12:34 ` [PATCH 1/5] kexec: Return -ENOSYS when kexec does not know how to call KEXEC_FILE_LOAD Simon Horman
2018-03-02 13:44   ` Michal Suchánek

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