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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>, Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	yinghai@kernel.org, vgoyal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv7] x86/kdump: bugfix, make the behavior of crashkernel=X consistent with kaslr
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2019 19:30:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190607173016.GM20269@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190128101831.GA27154@zn.tnic>

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 11:18:31AM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 05:58:09PM +0800, Dave Young wrote:
> > Another reason is in case ,high we will need automatically reserve a
> > region in low area for swiotlb.  So for example one use
> > crashkernel=256M,high,  actual reserved memory is 256M above 4G and
> > another 256M under 4G for swiotlb.  Normally it is not necessary for
> > most people.  Thus we can not make ,high as default.
> 
> And how is the poor user to figure out that we decided for her/him that
> swiotlb reservation is something not necessary for most people and thus
> we fail the crashkernel= reservation?
> 
> IOW, that "logic" above doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me from
> user friendliness perspective.

So to show what I mean: I'm trying to reserve a crash kernel region on a
box here. I tried:

crashkernel=64M@16M

as it is stated in Documentation/kdump/kdump.txt.

Box said:

[    0.000000] crashkernel reservation failed - memory is in use.

Oh great.

Then I tried:

crashkernel=64M@64M

Box said:

[    0.000000] crashkernel reservation failed - memory is in use.

So I simply did:

crashkernel=64M

and the box said:

[    0.000000] Reserving 64MB of memory at 3392MB for crashkernel (System RAM: 16271MB)

So I could've gone a long time poking at the memory to find a suitable
address.

So do you see what I mean with making this as user-friendly and as
robust as possible?

In this case I don't care about *where* my crash kernel is - I only want
to have one loaded *somewhere*.

And the same strategy should be applied to other reservation attempts
- we should try hard to reserve and if we cannot reserve, then try an
alternating range.

I even think that

crashkernel=X@Y

should not simply fail if Y is occupied but keep trying and say

[    0.000000] Reserving 64MB of memory at alternative address 3392MB for crashkernel (System RAM: 16271MB)

and only fail when the user doesn't really want the kernel to try hard
by booting with

crashkernel=X@Y,strict

But that's for another day.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

Good mailing practices for 400: avoid top-posting and trim the reply.

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-07 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-21  5:16 [PATCHv7] x86/kdump: bugfix, make the behavior of crashkernel=X consistent with kaslr Pingfan Liu
2019-01-21  6:24 ` Baoquan He
2019-01-25 10:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-25 13:45   ` Dave Young
2019-01-25 14:08     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-28  9:58       ` Dave Young
2019-01-28 10:18         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-06-07 17:30           ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2019-06-10  6:51             ` Dave Young
2019-01-29  5:25       ` Pingfan Liu
2019-01-31  7:42         ` Dave Young
2019-01-31  7:59       ` Dave Young
2019-01-31 10:57         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-01-31 22:27           ` Jerry Hoemann
2019-01-31 23:47             ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-04 22:30               ` Jerry Hoemann
2019-02-05  8:15                 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-06 12:08                   ` Dave Young
2019-02-11 20:48                     ` Dave Young
2019-02-12  5:35                       ` Pingfan Liu
2019-02-15 10:24                       ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-18  1:48                         ` Dave Young
2019-02-20  7:38                           ` Pingfan Liu
2019-02-20  8:32                           ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-20  9:41                             ` Dave Young
2019-02-20 12:51                               ` Pingfan Liu
2019-02-21 17:13                               ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-22  2:11                                 ` Dave Young
2019-02-22  8:42                                   ` Joerg Roedel
2019-02-22 13:00                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-24 13:25                                       ` Pingfan Liu
2019-02-25  1:53                                         ` Dave Young
2019-02-25  9:39                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-25 11:00                                       ` Joerg Roedel
2019-02-25 11:12                                         ` Dave Young
2019-02-25 11:30                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2019-03-01  3:04                                             ` Pingfan Liu
2019-03-01  3:19                                               ` Pingfan Liu
2019-03-22  8:22                                                 ` Dave Young
2019-01-29  5:51   ` Pingfan Liu
2019-01-31 10:50     ` Borislav Petkov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-01-15  8:07 Pingfan Liu
2019-01-18  3:43 ` Dave Young
2019-01-19  1:25 ` Jerry Hoemann
2019-01-21  5:11   ` Pingfan Liu

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