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From: Emrah Demir <ed@abdsec.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Freeman Zhang <freeman.zhang1992@gmail.com>,
	linus971@gmail.com,
	Kexec Mailing List <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	Zhengyu Zhang <zhezhang@redhat.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>, Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Removal of the kernel code/data/bss resources does break kexec/kdump
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 13:08:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3013ec906698cbc94d8ac1271dda0997@abdsec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFywMZ+X2o7LRt3KVNO9+gJt2yBmdyWR8M-k8WHhjJbf9w@mail.gmail.com>

On 2016-04-15 12:48, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Emrah Demir <ed@abdsec.com> wrote:
>> 
>> file_ns_capable bring some problems.
> 
> No it does not. file_ns_capable() is _required_ for security. We have
> had several security issues with file IO doing "capable()", and it's
> wrong and insecure.

Of course file_ns_capable() is required, I didn't know you made some 
changes in include/linux/seq_file.h file

>> I used capable and now there is no problem as far as I tested.
> 
> You just screwed up the security, and with your change, a suid
> application can be fooled into making the hidden data available to
> non-secure users.
> 

Sorry for screwing up the security. I would never wish to do that. As 
you said a suid application could screw up things.

> "capable()" is wrong. For file reading,  you *have* to use
> file_ns_capable(). It really is that simple. You should not test the
> capabilities of the process, you should be testing the capabilities of
> the file descriptor, which comes from the *open-time* capabilities.
> 
> It sounds like you applied just the patch to kernel/resource.c,
> without applying the infrastructure patch.
> 
> You also need commit 34dbbcdbf633 ("Make file credentials available to
> the seqfile interfaces").
> 

Yeah, you are right. I didn't see that commit. It's okay now. Thank you!

-Emrah


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-15 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-14 10:14 Removal of the kernel code/data/bss resources does break kexec/kdump Freeman Zhang
2016-04-14 11:07 ` Emrah Demir
2016-04-14 17:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-04-14 20:27     ` Emrah Demir
2016-04-15  1:02       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-04-15  4:41         ` Kees Cook
2016-04-15 15:46           ` Emrah Demir
2016-04-15 16:48             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-04-15 17:08               ` Emrah Demir [this message]
2016-04-19  9:04         ` Dave Young
2016-04-19 16:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-04-20  1:13             ` Dave Young
2016-04-14 11:26 ` Baoquan He

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