From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
Haren Myneni <hbabu@us.ibm.com>,
Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:13:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49058645.9010005@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1bpx6bxhm.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org>
Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> NMI IPIs are already used on x86 native_machine_crash_shutdown(), so
>> it wouldn't get more messy that it is currently. We just need to add
>> another bit of code to the code that already runs on an NMI handler.
>>
>
> Yes. And handling of those NMIs is best effort. Nothing fails if
> they don't actually run.
>
>
Unless someone can come up with another way to disable vmx remotely,
that's going to change if you have vmx enabled.
> Well we could fairly easily have a non-modular function that does.
> if (vmx_present && vmx_enabled) {
> turn_off_vmx();
> }
>
> Which at first skim looks like it is all of about 10-20 machine
> instructions.
>
>
There's no way to query whether vmx is enabled or disabled, AFAICT. So
we have to execute vmxoff and ignore possible #UDs.
If we trust the exception handlers, there's no problem. Otherwise we
need to replace the current #UD handler with an iret (perhaps switching
temporarily to another IDT).
> There are a few real places where we need code on the kdump
> path because there it is not possible to do the work any
> other way. However we need to think long and hard about
> that because placing the code anywhere besides in a broken
> and failing kernel is going to be easier to maintain and
> more reliable.
>
vmx blocking INITs makes it impossible to leave this to the new kernel.
> I oppose an atomic notifier because it makes the review
> essentially impossible. If any module can come in and register
> a notifier we can't know what code is running on that code
> path and we can't be certain the code is safe in an abnormal
> case to run on that code path.
>
What if it's a specialized notifier for kexec? Or even kexec_crash?
That said, I have no issue with static code at the call site.
> Right now we only need to support vmx on the kdump path because
> of what appears to be a hardware design bug. Enabling vmx
> apparently disables standard functions like an INIT IPI. Things
> like this do happen but they should be rare.
>
The general kexec path also wants this fixed.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-27 9:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-20 15:01 [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] kdump: crash-time CPU halt notifier interface Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-20 15:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] kvm: disable virtualization when halting CPUs on crash Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-22 23:28 ` [PATCH 0/2] kvm: disable virtualization on kdump Simon Horman
2008-10-23 19:41 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-23 22:29 ` Simon Horman
2008-10-24 1:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 12:49 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 14:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 15:07 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-26 21:39 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 2:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 9:13 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-10-27 12:28 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 14:02 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 17:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-28 19:45 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-28 20:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-29 9:41 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 14:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-29 17:03 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-30 1:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-30 7:35 ` Chris Lalancette
2008-10-30 7:43 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-30 7:52 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 9:31 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 15:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 15:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-27 8:54 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 13:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-10-27 14:04 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 20:10 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-29 20:29 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 21:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-10-30 0:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-26 21:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 8:59 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-27 15:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-10-27 15:38 ` Eduardo Habkost
2008-10-26 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
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