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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: X86-ML <x86@kernel.org>, KEXEC-ML <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwish.07@gmail.com>,
	Haren Myneni <hbabu@us.ibm.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Saveoops: Making Kexec purgatory position-independent?
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:15:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D69A5C6.6020906@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m14o7q5m6d.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

On 02/26/2011 04:57 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>
>> I can't see any sane reason to *not* make kexec purgatory
>> position-independent.  It is the obvious thing to do.
> 
> This isn't a case of the code not being position independent.  This is
> case of where the relocations are applied.
> 
> I can see a couple of handling this with different tradeoffs.
> 
> 1) We teach bootloaders how to load two kernels at once.  This
>    completely avoids the purgatory, as it is replaced by code in the
>    bootloader that already exists to load the primary kernel and setup
>    it's arguments.
> 
> 2) We add minimal relocation processing to purgatory, allowing us to do
>    the setup for the second kernel extremely early and allow it to be
>    compiled into the first kernel.
> 
> 3) We come up with a scheme where we don't share code and the first
>    kernel copies the firmware information to place where the second
>    kernel can get at it, and uses it's own home grown stub and not
>    purgatory.
> 
> I think this whole thing can be prototyped easily with a getting /sbin/kexec
> to load to a fixed address and then baking that section into the primary
> kernel.  I'm not convinced that directly using /sbin/kexec is the right
> way forward to handle the general case.  This is something where the
> devil is in the details.
> 

OK... I'm clearly missing something... what code is not being
position-independent and which code needs relocations applied?

	-hpa

-- 
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel.  I don't speak on their behalf.


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-27  1:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-26 16:20 Saveoops: Making Kexec purgatory position-independent? Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-02-26 21:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-27  0:57   ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-02-27  1:15     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2011-02-27 13:24     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-02-27 14:16       ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-27 15:43         ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-02-27 18:32       ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-02-28  1:38     ` Simon Horman
2011-02-28  1:39     ` H. Peter Anvin

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