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From: Aravinda Prasad <aravinda@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Dave Anderson <anderson@redhat.com>
Cc: ananth@in.ibm.com, mahesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, LChouinard@s2sys.com,
	tachibana@mxm.nes.nec.co.jp, kumagai-atsushi@mxc.nes.nec.co.jp,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	buendgen@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] makedumpfile security key filtering with eppic
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:57:40 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50A4EDCC.9070004@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <229199866.31780089.1352924500787.JavaMail.root@redhat.com>



On 2012-11-15 01:51, Dave Anderson wrote:

> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> Hi Vivek,
>>
>> On 2012-11-14 20:24, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 07:07:52PM +0530, Aravinda Prasad wrote:
>>>> makedumpfile security key filtering enhancement - Add Eppic language
>>>> support (formerly known as SIAL) to specify rules to scrub data in a
>>>> dumpfile. Eppic was previously part of crash source code repository.
>>>>
>>>> The following series of patches enhance the makedumpfile to provide
>>>> a more powerful way to specify rules and commands to traverse and
>>>> erase complex data structures in a dump file by integrating Embeddable
>>>> Pre-Processor and Interpreter for C (eppic).
>>>
>>> Hi Aravinda,
>>>
>>> Had few questions.
>>>
>>> - Which file will contain all the rules?
>>
>>
>> As of now rule files will not be provided by makedumpfile. However,
>> writing a rule file is very easy - it is a C program.
>>
>>>
>>> - What's the memory footprint of libeppic.a? Looks like this will be
>>>   linked statically with makedumpfile, and how much is the size bloat of
>>>   makedumpfile.
>>
>>
>> Memory footprint of libeppic.a is around 1MB. Yes, this will be
>> statically linked to makedumpfile. Users should specify EPPIC=on while
>> building the makedumpfile and hence linking libeppic.a is optional
>>
>>>
>>> - Is this supposed to work from kdump initramfs or it is supposed to be
>>>   used on already saved dump (later during post processing).
>>
>>
>> For the time being, it is only during post processing.
> 
> By post-processing, I understand you to say that the system would be
> configured to do a full ELF vmcore dump, save it somewhere, and then
> somebody would do the post-processing at a later time?


Yes exactly.

> 
> Or is it possible to run makedumpfile again on a compressed kdump that
> was previously created at dump-time?


Yes, it is possible to run makedumpfile with eppic again and again on
compressed kdump, dump which excludes unnecessary pages and dumpfile
which is already filtered by eppic.

> 
>>>
>>>   Given the fact that it does not reduce the size of core file
>>>   significantly, I would think that it is better to post process vmcore
>>>   to wipe out some symbols.
>>
>>
>> The main intention is to remove confidential information from the dump
>> file, like ssh keys etc., which could be just few bytes, hence, may not
>> reduce the size of the dump significantly.
> 
> So this would require you to first do a crash analysis on the unfiltered dumpfile,
> find out what you want to filter, write a script, and then run makedumpfile
> on the vmcore, correct?


Need not be always. If users know what to erase in advance they can skip
the crash analysis part. I had mentioned an example in my previous reply
to Vivek on how to erase keyring data from struct key.

> 
> Dave
> 
> 


-- 
Regards,
Aravinda


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      reply	other threads:[~2012-11-15 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-08 13:37 [PATCH v2 0/7] makedumpfile security key filtering with eppic Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-08 13:38 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] Initialize and setup eppic Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-15 16:04   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-16  9:43     ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-08 13:38 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] makedumpfile and eppic interface layer Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-08 13:38 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] Eppic call back functions to query a dump image Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-08 13:38 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] Implement apigetctype call back function Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-08 13:39 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] Implement apimember and apigetrtype call back functions Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-08 13:39 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] Extend eppic built-in functions to include memset function Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-08 13:39 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] Support fully typed symbol access mode Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-14  1:15 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] makedumpfile security key filtering with eppic Atsushi Kumagai
2012-11-14 14:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-14 17:06   ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-14 17:53     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-15 12:50       ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-15 14:27         ` Dave Anderson
2012-11-15 15:55           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-16  9:52             ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-16 14:36               ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-20  9:47                 ` Atsushi Kumagai
2012-11-21  7:19                   ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-21 13:57                     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-22 17:14                       ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-26 14:04                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-12-03  6:02                           ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-12-03 13:20                             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-12-03 14:35                               ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-12-03 18:40                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-12-04  8:36                                   ` Atsushi Kumagai
2012-12-04  8:56                                     ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-12-06 15:26                             ` Dave Anderson
2012-12-07  6:05                               ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-12-07 13:46                                 ` Luc Chouinard
2012-12-07 21:59                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-12-10  7:32                                     ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-12-10 11:35                                       ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-16  9:49           ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-15 15:49         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-16 11:10           ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-16 14:59             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-14 20:15     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-15 12:55       ` Aravinda Prasad
2012-11-14 20:21     ` Dave Anderson
2012-11-15 13:27       ` Aravinda Prasad [this message]

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