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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
Cc: Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
	"kexec@lists.infradead.org" <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] Improve kexec support in Xen hypervisor
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 05:25:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ip6wdjq0.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50F7F62C.9020705@citrix.com> (David Vrabel's message of "Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:01:32 +0000")

David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com> writes:

> On 17/01/13 11:27, Daniel Kiper wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 04:29:03PM +0000, David Vrabel wrote:

>>> The kernel will require a kexec hypercall somewhere in the
>>> crash_kexec() path to actually exec the loaded image.  Any preferences
>>> on how the hook for this should be implemented?  Note that the kernel
>> 
>> This should be implemented as stub which be called by machine_kexec()
>> and later it would call relevant hypercall.
>
> That's a complicated way of making a simple function call.  What's the
> justification for doing it this way?

Because there is no justification for a Xen to have a hack in the
crash_kexec() path.  crash_kexec comes as close as it can to doing
a simple function call.

> Because Linux doesn't allow images to be unloaded, it's not clear how we
> can get sensible behavior if the image is unloaded from Xen.  The stub
> will remain loaded in Linux but will not be able to return (easily?).

Linux allows images to be unloaded by loading an empty image.  Aka an
image with nr_segments == 0.

>>> won't be aware that an image as been loaded as it is loaded directly
>>> into the hypervisor and not via the kernel's kexec_load system call.
>> 
>> Maybe we should have sepcial kexec hypercall function which allow us
>> to ask hypervisor that image is loaded or not.
>
> It's not possible to check for an image atomically. I don't think this
> is necessary anyway, KEXEC_CMD_exec will return if no image is loaded.

If Xen supported something other than the kexec on panic path this could
be interesting.  The current linux userspace does things conditionally
if you are in the reboot runlevel and kexec is coming up.  Certainly for
the kexec on panic path it is non-interesting.

Eric


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      reply	other threads:[~2013-01-17 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-16 16:29 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Improve kexec support in Xen hypervisor David Vrabel
2013-01-16 16:29 ` [PATCH 1/3] kexec: extend hypercall with improved load/unload ops David Vrabel
2013-01-17 12:28   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-17 14:50     ` David Vrabel
2013-01-17 15:17       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-17 17:53         ` David Vrabel
2013-01-18  9:44           ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-18  9:50           ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-01-18 19:01           ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-17 12:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-01-16 16:29 ` [PATCH 2/3] kexec: remove kexec_load and kexec_unload ops David Vrabel
2013-01-16 16:29 ` [PATCH 3/3] libxc: add API for kexec hypercall David Vrabel
2013-01-16 16:59   ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-01-16 16:33 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Improve kexec support in Xen hypervisor David Vrabel
2013-01-16 17:02 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-01-16 17:48   ` David Vrabel
2013-01-17  9:35     ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-17 10:46     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 10:51       ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 11:27 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-17 11:37   ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2013-01-17 12:59     ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-17 13:01   ` David Vrabel
2013-01-17 13:25     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]

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