From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: kexec@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH V3] panic: Move panic_print before kmsg dumpers
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 10:39:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YektvNyN6mAHv9jJ@alley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94bb12a2-a788-cee6-7d4f-dc0ac581fb39@igalia.com>
On Wed 2022-01-19 13:03:15, Guilherme G. Piccoli wrote:
> Thanks again Petr, for the deep analysis! Much appreciated.
> Some comments inline below:
>
>
> On 19/01/2022 12:48, Petr Mladek wrote:
> >[...]
> > From my POV, the function of panic notifiers is not well defined. They
> > do various things, for example:
> > [...]
> >
> > The do more that just providing information. Some are risky. It is not
> > easy to disable a particular one.
>
> We are trying to change that here:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220108153451.195121-1-gpiccoli at igalia.com/
>
> Your review/comments are very welcome =)
>
>
> > [...]
> > It might make sense to allow to call kmsg_dump before panic notifiers
> > to reduce the risk of a breakage. But I do not have enough experience
> > with them to judge this.
> >
> > I can't remember any bug report in this code. I guess that only
> > few people use kmsg_dump.
>
> One of the problems doing that is that RCU and hung task detector, for
> example, have panic notifiers to disable themselves in the panic
> scenario - if we kmsg_dump() _before_ the panic notifiers, we may have
> intermixed messages, all messy...so for me it makes sense to keep the
> kmsg_dump() after panic notifiers.
It makes perfect sense to disable the watchdogs during panic().
For example, rcu_panic() just sets a variable:
static int rcu_panic(struct notifier_block *this, unsigned long ev, void *ptr)
{
rcu_cpu_stall_suppress = 1;
return NOTIFY_DONE;
}
It is quick and super-safe. It might make sense to implement similar
thing for other watchdogs and do something like:
void panic_supress_watchdogs(void)
{
rcu_panic();
softlockup_watchog_panic();
wq_watchog_panic();
}
It might be caller early in panic().
>
> > [...]
> > Yes, panic_print_sys_info() increases the risk that the crash dump
> > will not succeed. But the change makes sense because:
> >
> > + panic_print_sys_info() might be useful even with full crash dump.
> > For example, ftrace messages are not easy to read from the memory
> > dump.
>
> The last point is really good, I didn't consider that before but makes a
> lot of sense - we can now dump (a hopefully small!) ftrace/event trace
> buffer to dmesg before a kdump, making it pretty easy to read that later.
> Cheers,
JFYI, there is an extension for the crash tool that might be able to read
the trace log, see https://crash-utility.github.io/extensions.html
I haven't tested it myself yet.
Best Regards,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-20 9:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-14 18:30 [PATCH V3] panic: Move panic_print before kmsg dumpers Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-17 3:33 ` Baoquan He
2022-01-17 6:13 ` Baoquan He
2022-01-17 12:58 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-19 7:13 ` Baoquan He
2022-01-19 12:57 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-19 15:48 ` Petr Mladek
2022-01-19 16:03 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-20 9:39 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2022-01-20 15:51 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-20 8:51 ` Baoquan He
2022-01-20 21:36 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-21 2:31 ` Baoquan He
2022-01-21 13:17 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-22 10:31 ` Baoquan He
2022-01-22 13:49 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-26 3:29 ` Baoquan He
2022-01-21 15:00 ` Michael Kelley
2022-01-22 4:33 ` Baoquan He
2022-01-24 16:57 ` Michael Kelley
2022-01-26 11:51 ` Petr Mladek
2022-01-29 8:00 ` Baoquan He
2022-02-02 17:43 ` Michael Kelley
2022-02-07 8:33 ` Baoquan He
2022-01-28 9:03 ` Baoquan He
2022-01-28 18:24 ` Michael Kelley
2022-01-29 7:42 ` Baoquan He
2022-01-19 18:38 ` Petr Mladek
2022-01-19 19:51 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
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