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To: "Gowans, James" <jgowans@amazon.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] kexec: do syscore_shutdown() in kernel_kexec
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 16:26:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZYFTtubWqPb/n8tc@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9ffa2c4d3e808feb2afa6f02f4afabf1cd674516.camel@amazon.com>

On 12/19/23 at 07:41am, Gowans, James wrote:
> On Tue, 2023-12-19 at 12:22 +0800, Baoquan He wrote:
> > Add Andrew to CC as Andrew helps to pick kexec/kdump patches.
> 
> Ah, thanks, I didn't realise that Andrew pulls in the kexec patches.
> > 
> > On 12/13/23 at 08:40am, James Gowans wrote:
> > ......
> > > This has been tested by doing a kexec on x86_64 and aarch64.
> > 
> > Hi James,
> > 
> > Thanks for this great patch. My colleagues have opened bug in rhel to
> > track this and try to veryfy this patch. However, they can't reproduce
> > the issue this patch is fixing. Could you tell more about where and how
> > to reproduce so that we can be aware of it better? Thanks in advance.
> 
> Sure! The TL;DR is: run a VMX (Intel x86) KVM VM on Linux v6.4+ and do a
> kexec while the  KVM VM is still running. Before this patch the system
> will triple fault.

Thanks a lot for these details, I will forward this to our QE to try.

> 
> In more detail:
> Run a bare metal host on a modern Intel CPU with VMX support. The kernel
> I was using was 6.7.0-rc5+.
> You can totally do this with a QEMU "host" as well, btw, that's how I
> did the debugging and attached GDB to it to figure out what was up.
> 
> If you want a virtual "host" launch with:
> 
> -cpu host -M q35,kernel-irqchip=split,accel=kvm -enable-kvm
> 
> Launch a KVM guest VM, eg:
> 
> qemu-system-x86_64 \
>   -enable-kvm \
>   -cdrom alpine-virt-3.19.0-x86_64.iso \
>   -nodefaults -nographic -M q35 \
>   -serial mon:stdio
> 
> While the guest VM is *still running* do a kexec on the host, eg:
> 
> kexec -l --reuse-cmdline --initrd=config-6.7.0-rc5+ vmlinuz-6.7.0-rc5+ && \
>   kexec -e
> 
> The kexec can be to anything, but I generally just kexec to the same
> kernel/ramdisk as is currently running. Ie: same-version kexec.
> 
> Before this patch the kexec will get stuck, after this the kexec will go
> smoothly and the system will end up in the new kernel in a few seconds.
> 
> I hope those steps are clear and you can repro this?
> 
> BTW, the reason that it's important for the KVM VM to still be running
> when the host does the kexec is because KVM internally maintains a usage
> counter and will disable virtualisation once all VMs have been
> terminated, via:
> 
> __fput(kvm_fd)
>   kvm_vm_release
>     kvm_destroy_vm
>       hardware_disable_all
>         hardware_disable_all_nolock
>           kvm_usage_count--;
>           if (!kvm_usage_count)
>             on_each_cpu(hardware_disable_nolock, NULL, 1);
> 
> So if all KVM fds are closed then kexec will work because VMXE is
> cleared on all CPUs when the last VM is destroyed. If the KVM fds are
> still open (ie: QEMU process still exists) then the issue manifests.  It
> sounds nasty to do a kexec while QEMU processes are still around but
> this is a perfectly normal flow for live update:
> 1. Pause and Serialise VM state
> 2. kexec
> 3. deserialise and resume VMs.
> In that flow there's no need to actually kill the QEMU process, as long
> as the VM is *paused* and has been serialised we can happily kexec.
> 
> JG
> 


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      reply	other threads:[~2023-12-19  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-13  6:40 [PATCH] kexec: do syscore_shutdown() in kernel_kexec James Gowans
2023-12-13 16:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-12-18 12:41   ` Gowans, James
2024-01-09  6:59     ` Gowans, James
2023-12-19  4:22 ` Baoquan He
2023-12-19  7:41   ` Gowans, James
2023-12-19  8:26     ` bhe [this message]

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