From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Jiri Bohac <jbohac@suse.cz>,
David Hildenbrand <dhildenb@redhat.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
kexec@lists.infradead.org, Philipp Rudo <prudo@redhat.com>,
Donald Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>,
Pingfan Liu <piliu@redhat.com>, Tao Liu <ltao@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] kdump, documentation: describe craskernel CMA reservation
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 12:54:34 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGtTCqT0piPDFHE0@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c5495dd1-8085-4721-af1e-93f34f36d97b@redhat.com>
On 06/27/25 at 02:18pm, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 27.06.25 14:16, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > On 14.03.25 04:18, Baoquan He wrote:
> > > Hi Jiri,
> > >
> > > On 03/12/25 at 10:09pm, Jiri Bohac wrote:
> > > ......
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> > > > index fb8752b42ec8..895b974dc3bb 100644
> > > > --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> > > > @@ -987,6 +987,28 @@
> > > > 0: to disable low allocation.
> > > > It will be ignored when crashkernel=X,high is not used
> > > > or memory reserved is below 4G.
> > > > + crashkernel=size[KMG],cma
> > > > + [KNL, X86] Reserve additional crash kernel memory from
> > > > + CMA. This reservation is usable by the first system's
> > > > + userspace memory and kernel movable allocations (memory
> > > > + balloon, zswap). Pages allocated from this memory range
> > > > + will not be included in the vmcore so this should not
> > > > + be used if dumping of userspace memory is intended and
> > > > + it has to be expected that some movable kernel pages
> > > > + may be missing from the dump.
> > >
> > > Since David and Don expressed concern about the missing kernel pages
> > > allocated from CMA area in v2, and you argued this is still useful for
> > > VM system, I would like to invite David to help evaluate the whole
> > > series if it's worth from the VM and MM point of view.
> >
> > Balloon pages will not be dumped either way (PageOffline), so that is
> > not a convern.
> >
> > Zsmalloc pages ... are probably fine right now. They should likely only
> > be storing compressed user data. (not sure if they also store some other
> > datastructures, I think no, but might be wrong)
> >
> > My comment was rather forward-looking: that CMA memory only contains
> > user space memory is already not the case (but the existing cases might
> > be okay). In the future, as we support other movable allocations (as
> > raised, leaf page tables at some point, and there were discussions about
> > movable slab pages, although that might be challenging) this can change
> > (unless we find ways of not placing these allocations on CMA memory).
> >
> > So as is, this should be fine, but it's certainly something to be aware
> > of in the future.
> >
>
> BTW, I realize this was a late reply, and that the series already proceeded.
> Just stumbled over that un-replied mail an thought I'd clarify my point
> here.
Thanks a lot for deliberating on this and providing these helpful
details. As you said, this feature is fine for the time being, we can
remember this and consider how to adapt in the future once those movable
allocations could happen in CMA. And the risk has been told clearly in
doc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-07 4:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-12 21:00 [PATCH v3 0/5] kdump: crashkernel reservation from CMA Jiri Bohac
2025-03-12 21:03 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] Add a new optional ",cma" suffix to the crashkernel= command line option Jiri Bohac
2025-03-12 21:05 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] kdump: implement reserve_crashkernel_cma Jiri Bohac
2025-03-12 21:09 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] kdump, documentation: describe craskernel CMA reservation Jiri Bohac
2025-03-14 3:18 ` Baoquan He
2025-06-27 12:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-27 12:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-07 4:54 ` Baoquan He [this message]
2025-03-12 21:10 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] kdump: wait for DMA to finish when using CMA Jiri Bohac
2025-03-12 21:11 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] x86: implement crashkernel cma reservation Jiri Bohac
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