From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from namei.org ([65.99.196.166]) by casper.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.92 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1hgMVG-0006Wi-27 for kexec@lists.infradead.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 04:59:24 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 14:59:09 +1000 (AEST) From: James Morris Subject: Re: [PATCH V34 09/29] kexec_file: Restrict at runtime if the kernel is locked down In-Reply-To: <20190622000358.19895-10-matthewgarrett@google.com> Message-ID: References: <20190622000358.19895-1-matthewgarrett@google.com> <20190622000358.19895-10-matthewgarrett@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "kexec" Errors-To: kexec-bounces+dwmw2=infradead.org@lists.infradead.org To: Matthew Garrett Cc: Jiri Bohac , linux-api@vger.kernel.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Matthew Garrett , David Howells , linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 21 Jun 2019, Matthew Garrett wrote: > From: Jiri Bohac > > When KEXEC_SIG is not enabled, kernel should not load images through > kexec_file systemcall if the kernel is locked down. This is not a criticism of the patch but a related issue which I haven't seen discussed (apologies if it has). If signed code is loaded into ring 0, verified by the kernel, then executed, you still lose your secure/trusted/verified boot state. If the currently running kernel has been runtime-compromised, any signature verification performed by the kernel cannot be trusted. This problem is out of scope for the lockdown threat model (which naturally cannot include a compromised kernel), but folk should be aware that signature-verified kexec does not provide equivalent assurance to a full reboot on a secure-boot system. Potential mitigations here include runtime integrity verification of the kernel via a separate security monitor (hypervisor, SMM, TEE etc.) or some kind of platform support for kexec verification. -- James Morris _______________________________________________ kexec mailing list kexec@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/kexec