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From: Anthony Yznaga <anthony.yznaga@oracle.com>
To: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	luto@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, rppt@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	keescook@chromium.org, graf@amazon.com, jason.zeng@intel.com,
	lei.l.li@intel.com, steven.sistare@oracle.com,
	fam.zheng@bytedance.com, mgalaxy@akamai.com,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 00/21] Preserved-over-Kexec RAM
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2023 16:58:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ffbfc4be-4013-574f-0ec1-f05982887775@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZHf/Os9v2cx97Maw@MiWiFi-R3L-srv>


On 5/31/23 7:15 PM, Baoquan He wrote:
> On 04/26/23 at 05:08pm, Anthony Yznaga wrote:
>> Sending out this RFC in part to guage community interest.
>> This patchset implements preserved-over-kexec memory storage or PKRAM as a
>> method for saving memory pages of the currently executing kernel so that
>> they may be restored after kexec into a new kernel. The patches are adapted
>> from an RFC patchset sent out in 2013 by Vladimir Davydov [1]. They
>> introduce the PKRAM kernel API.
>>
>> One use case for PKRAM is preserving guest memory and/or auxillary
>> supporting data (e.g. iommu data) across kexec to support reboot of the
>> host with minimal disruption to the guest. PKRAM provides a flexible way
>> for doing this without requiring that the amount of memory used by a fixed
>> size created a priori.  Another use case is for databases to preserve their
>> block caches in shared memory across reboot.
> If so, I have confusions, who can help clarify:
> 1) Why kexec reboot was introduced, what do we expect kexec reboot to
>     do?
>
> 2) If we need keep these data and those data, can we not reboot? They
>     are definitely located there w/o any concern.
>
> 3) What if systems of AI, edge computing, HPC etc also want to carry
>     kinds of data from userspace or kernel, system status, registers
>     etc when kexec reboot is needed, while enligntened by this patch?

Hi Baoquan,

Avoiding a more significant disruption from having to halt or migrate

VMs, failover services, etc. when a reboot is necessary to pick up

security fixes is one motivation for exploring preserving memory

across the reboot.


Anthony

>
> Thanks
> Baoquan
>

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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-27  0:08 [RFC v3 00/21] Preserved-over-Kexec RAM Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 01/21] mm: add PKRAM API stubs and Kconfig Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 02/21] mm: PKRAM: implement node load and save functions Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 03/21] mm: PKRAM: implement object " Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 04/21] mm: PKRAM: implement folio stream operations Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 05/21] mm: PKRAM: implement byte " Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 06/21] mm: PKRAM: link nodes by pfn before reboot Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 07/21] mm: PKRAM: introduce super block Anthony Yznaga
2023-06-05  2:40   ` Coiby Xu
2023-06-06  2:01     ` Anthony Yznaga
2023-06-06  2:55       ` Coiby Xu
2023-06-06  3:12         ` Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 08/21] PKRAM: track preserved pages in a physical mapping pagetable Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 09/21] PKRAM: pass a list of preserved ranges to the next kernel Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 10/21] PKRAM: prepare for adding preserved ranges to memblock reserved Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 11/21] mm: PKRAM: reserve preserved memory at boot Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 12/21] PKRAM: free the preserved ranges list Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 13/21] PKRAM: prevent inadvertent use of a stale superblock Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 14/21] PKRAM: provide a way to ban pages from use by PKRAM Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 15/21] kexec: PKRAM: prevent kexec clobbering preserved pages in some cases Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 16/21] PKRAM: provide a way to check if a memory range has preserved pages Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 17/21] kexec: PKRAM: avoid clobbering already " Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 18/21] mm: PKRAM: allow preserved memory to be freed from userspace Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 19/21] PKRAM: disable feature when running the kdump kernel Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 20/21] x86/KASLR: PKRAM: support physical kaslr Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27  0:08 ` [RFC v3 21/21] x86/boot/compressed/64: use 1GB pages for mappings Anthony Yznaga
2023-04-27 18:40   ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-04-27 22:38     ` Anthony Yznaga
2023-05-26 13:57 ` [RFC v3 00/21] Preserved-over-Kexec RAM Gowans, James
2023-05-31 23:14   ` Anthony Yznaga
2023-06-01  2:15 ` Baoquan He
2023-06-01 23:58   ` Anthony Yznaga [this message]

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