From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Matthieu Baerts <matttbe@kernel.org>,
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Dan Carpenter <error27@gmail.com>,
Konstantin Ryabitsev <mricon@kernel.org>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Coping with the new-developer flood
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2026 16:34:30 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260807133430.GN2201016@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9190410e0173138f9cc95e6e7f68c4ca14b2d333.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
On Fri, Aug 07, 2026 at 08:51:50AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Fri, 2026-08-07 at 15:40 +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 07, 2026 at 08:28:08AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> [...]
> > > There are two reasons not to insist too rigidly on base commit:
> > > firstly because a lot of series are invariant (they apply to any
> > > tree because there's been no commits in the areas patched)
> >
> > Then the author could pick any base commit available in Linus' tree
> > the relevant subsystem tree (typically an upstream release of the
> > next branch of the subsystem). Would that have any drawback compared
> > to not specifying any base commit at all ?
>
> It's just pointless hassle given the maintainer workflow is ignore the
> base commit and do git (or b4) am on the current branch and only if
> that rejects either try and upport based on the base commit or ask for
> a respin (the latter being the most common course of action).
>
> > > and secondly because the series has a dependency on another posted
> > > but not yet applied patch series (i.e. no published base commit at
> > > all). At least make it a Maintainer decision whether to insist on
> > > base commit or not.
> >
> > Isn't that what prerequisite-patch-id is for ?
>
> Dear god, absolutely not. I can't match a patch hash to a series, I
> want the lore link of the prerequisite series in the cover letter.
I thought lore was indexable by patch-id as well, maybe I'm mistaken. If
that's not the case, it could be a useful feature.
The message-id of a prerequisite series is certainly better. There's
apparently a b4 trailer for that, prerequisite-message-id. See [1] for
an example. I don't know how automated, or automatable, adding that
trailer is.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260805-tegra264-pcie-v9-0-fa2ed7350ae1@nvidia.com/
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-07 13:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-05 23:26 [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Coping with the new-developer flood Jonathan Corbet
2026-08-06 9:24 ` Matthieu Baerts
2026-08-06 10:10 ` Dan Carpenter
2026-08-06 15:42 ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-06 15:57 ` Greg KH
2026-08-06 17:28 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-08-06 18:56 ` Shuah Khan
2026-08-06 19:32 ` Dan Carpenter
2026-08-06 21:14 ` Mark Brown
2026-08-07 3:23 ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-07 9:20 ` Matthieu Baerts
2026-08-07 11:56 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-08-07 12:28 ` James Bottomley
2026-08-07 12:40 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-08-07 12:47 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-07 13:36 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-08-07 13:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-08-07 16:38 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-08-07 12:51 ` James Bottomley
2026-08-07 13:34 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2026-08-07 13:42 ` Mark Brown
2026-08-07 13:02 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-08-07 13:12 ` Dan Carpenter
2026-08-07 16:37 ` Miguel Ojeda
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