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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Matthieu Baerts <matttbe@kernel.org>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Dan Carpenter <error27@gmail.com>,
	Konstantin Ryabitsev <mricon@kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Coping with the new-developer flood
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2026 16:34:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260807133430.GN2201016@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9190410e0173138f9cc95e6e7f68c4ca14b2d333.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Fri, Aug 07, 2026 at 08:51:50AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Fri, 2026-08-07 at 15:40 +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 07, 2026 at 08:28:08AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> [...]
> > > There are two reasons not to insist too rigidly on base commit:
> > > firstly because a lot of series are invariant (they apply to any
> > > tree because there's been no commits in the areas patched)
> > 
> > Then the author could pick any base commit available in Linus' tree
> > the relevant subsystem tree (typically an upstream release of the
> > next branch of the subsystem). Would that have any drawback compared
> > to not specifying any base commit at all ?
> 
> It's just pointless hassle given the maintainer workflow is ignore the
> base commit and do git (or b4) am on the current branch and only if
> that rejects either try and upport based on the base commit or ask for
> a respin (the latter being the most common course of action).
> 
> > > and secondly because the series has a dependency on another posted
> > > but not yet applied patch series (i.e. no published base commit at
> > > all).  At least make it a Maintainer decision whether to insist on
> > > base commit or not.
> > 
> > Isn't that what prerequisite-patch-id is for ?
> 
> Dear god, absolutely not.  I can't match a patch hash to a series, I
> want the lore link of the prerequisite series in the cover letter.

I thought lore was indexable by patch-id as well, maybe I'm mistaken. If
that's not the case, it could be a useful feature.

The message-id of a prerequisite series is certainly better. There's
apparently a b4 trailer for that, prerequisite-message-id. See [1] for
an example. I don't know how automated, or automatable, adding that
trailer is.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260805-tegra264-pcie-v9-0-fa2ed7350ae1@nvidia.com/

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-07 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-05 23:26 [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Coping with the new-developer flood Jonathan Corbet
2026-08-06  9:24 ` Matthieu Baerts
2026-08-06 10:10 ` Dan Carpenter
2026-08-06 15:42 ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-06 15:57   ` Greg KH
2026-08-06 17:28     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-08-06 18:56       ` Shuah Khan
2026-08-06 19:32       ` Dan Carpenter
2026-08-06 21:14         ` Mark Brown
2026-08-07  3:23         ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-07  9:20           ` Matthieu Baerts
2026-08-07 11:56             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-08-07 12:28               ` James Bottomley
2026-08-07 12:40                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-08-07 12:47                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-08-07 13:36                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-08-07 13:56                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-08-07 16:38                       ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-08-07 12:51                   ` James Bottomley
2026-08-07 13:34                     ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2026-08-07 13:42                     ` Mark Brown
2026-08-07 13:02           ` Mimi Zohar
2026-08-07 13:12             ` Dan Carpenter
2026-08-07 16:37               ` Miguel Ojeda

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