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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [TECH TOPIC] Kernel documentation
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 06:50:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877cmc7cut.fsf@meer.lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <430ee6bb-2556-4674-ae9d-fd7729bf8afd@oracle.com>

Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com> writes:

> (We already exchanged on this topic, but repeating it for the list:)
>
> On 20/06/2023 21:30, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
>> Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com> writes:
>> 
>>> It should be more feasible to build the documentation. Make it
>>> faster,
>
> When using PyPy instead of CPython to run Sphinx, I see a 22%
> performance improvement on the kernel documentation, which is not
> insignificant.

That is nice, but we can't really assume that everybody building the
docs has pypy around.

>> A while back, I went into Sphinx with a hatchet and managed to take 
>> about 20% off the build time.  The C domain stuff builds a data 
>> structure of incredible complexity, then just tosses much of it
>> away. I've never had the time to figure out why they do that or to
>> try to get my hack job into a condition where I'd be willing to show
>> it to my dog, much less the Sphinx developers.
>
> I also profiled the documentation build some weeks ago and came to the
> same conclusion: around 40% of the time is spent inside resolve_xref(),
> the exact same C domain stuff you mentioned.
>
> The gcc project/documentation has the same problem, albeit in the C++
> domain code, there is an open ticket for it:
>
>    https://github.com/sphinx-doc/sphinx/issues/10966
>
> If we're really not using the functionality provided by the C domain
> code, maybe instead of ripping it out we could provide something like a
> conf.py toggle to disable it? (The idea being that the patch would be
> smaller and more acceptable upstream...)

Ah but we are - it's how we generate all of the cross-references in the
built docs.  My sense, from a couple of years ago though was that parts
of that code aren't used by *anybody*.  But I didn't feel that I'd
understood it well enough to make a proper patch.  I'd really like to
get back to that.

Thanks,

jon

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-20 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-16 17:48 [TECH TOPIC] Kernel documentation Jonathan Corbet
2023-06-20 16:02 ` Jani Nikula
2023-06-20 19:30   ` Jonathan Corbet
2023-11-20 12:06     ` Vegard Nossum
2023-11-20 13:50       ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2023-11-20 14:42         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2023-11-20 14:49           ` Johannes Berg
2023-11-20 20:54           ` Jonathan Corbet
2023-06-29 21:34   ` Intersphinx ([TECH TOPIC] Kernel documentation) Jonathan Corbet
2023-06-30 13:17     ` Jani Nikula
2023-06-30 16:54     ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-06-30 17:11       ` Jonathan Corbet
2023-07-02  1:46     ` Steven Rostedt
2023-07-02  4:56       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-02 13:18         ` James Bottomley
2023-07-02 18:32         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-07-02 18:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-03  2:46             ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-06-21 11:04 ` [TECH TOPIC] Kernel documentation Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-06-26 14:34   ` Jan Kara
2023-11-11 12:42 ` Vegard Nossum
2023-11-11 15:14   ` Jonathan Corbet
2023-11-20 12:20     ` Vegard Nossum

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