Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] TAB non-nomination

Chris Mason
2018-11-10T19:15:16Z

On 9 Nov 2018, at 11:54, Frank Rowand wrote:

> On 11/8/18 7:30 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
>> On 8 Nov 2018, at 16:04, James Bottomley wrote:
>>>
>>> Hind sight, though is always perfect. At the time, as a TAB member,
>>> all you saw was a panic driven by both Linus and the Linux
>>> Foundation
>>> that we needed an updated Kernel CoC ASAP, like today.
>>
>> I think panic is the wrong word to attach to Linus' response,
>> especially
>> around the code of conduct.
>>
>>>
>>> The second mistake was picking the wrong CoC. [ ... ]
>>>
>>> The third mistake was dumping the fully formed CoC and a later
>>> update
>>> into the tree with little to no community input
>>
>
>> The update was entirely based on community input.
>
> I am going to try to parse that sentence very carefully and narrowly.
>
> If you are saying that the update (that is,
> code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst)
> then I would agree that the document appears to have been created
> based on community input. But that is merely a conjecture on my part
> since the document was created in a small closed group.
>
> If you are saying that the creation of
> code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst
> was done in a process that was open and visible to the community, then
> I would disagree. I don't know if this is what you meant to convey,
> but it is very easy to interpret the sentence in this way.
>

Ted's earlier reply has a good summary, but the part I want to underline
is that we sought out people who strongly disagreed with us, and we did
our best to understand their concerns. It was important to me that we
give people a private channel to express themselves, especially
considering that the topic at hand was behavior on public lists.

It was a tradeoff, but I was really happy with the number of people who
participated who might otherwise have stayed out of the discussion
completely.

-chris