Re: RFC: switching "THE REST" in MAINTAINERS away from linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org

Ian Kelling
2023-11-09T05:01:02Z

Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> writes:

> On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 09:05:12AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> How about restricting access to all lists for gmail addresses if gmail
>> is so
>> broken?
>
> Today it's gmail, tomorrow it's something else. Just a month ago all
> services
> using outlook.com were broken for days:
> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/1388775/outlook-com-servers-tells-server-busy-please-try-a
>
> All I want is to know is why someone wants to receive a copy of all
> patches
> via SMTP when much more effective mechanisms to achieve the same are
> available. If someone can provide a valid reason -- such as being a
> high-profile maintainer -- then of course I'll be happy to let them
> subscribe.
>
> -K

All kinds of services go down every day, smtp has good and bad, but I
see no reason to think it should be deprecated or anything. For example,
a good is that outgoing smtp is more resilient to ddos attacks than web
servers. Part of being a sysadmin is that things keep breaking tomorrow
and the next day, and we have to keep fixing them and it won't ever
stop. Yes, sometimes migrating people to very different software is the
fix, but I have experience running smtp at lists.gnu.org and from what
I've read so far, I think the problems you've described can be
effectively mitigated without restricting subscriptions nearly as much
as you propose in a reasonable effort. I'd be happy to provide a bit of
technical assistance.
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