Re: RFC: switching "THE REST" in MAINTAINERS away from linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org

Pratyush Yadav
2023-11-07T12:14:03Z

On Tue, Nov 07 2023, Laurent Pinchart wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 10:18:58AM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 11/6/23 23:52, Pavel Machek wrote:
>> >> For this reason, I propose switching the "F: *" entry in MAINTAINERS
>> >> ("THE REST") topatches@lists.linux.dev instead. This list differs from LKML
>> >> in the following important aspects:
>> >
>> > How many patches are in "the rest" area? I don't think it is that
>> > many, and I believe those should be broadcasted, as it is not clear
>> > who should handle them. And lkml seems to be reasonable place for them
>> > at the moment.
>>
>> Indeed, I suspect that a lot of the traffic to LKML does not come from
>> "THE REST", but rather from people using a git-send-email configuration like
>>
>> [sendemail]
>> to = linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org

FWIW, I do not have this nor have I seen any of my colleagues ever have
this in their config. In the patches I send, lkml always comes from
get_maintainers.pl.

>
> Do we document this as being a recommended git-send-email configuration
> ? That sounds horrible :-( Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
> states
>
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org should be used by default for all
> patches, but the volume on that list has caused a number of developers
> to tune it out. Please do not spam unrelated lists and unrelated
> people, though.
>
> This should be updated, even if for the only reason that the text is
> quite confusing (in my opinion at least, I'm not sure if it means LKML
> should be used for all patches, or shouldn't).
>
> To give another data point, balancing a bit the replies that expressed
> surprise at Konstantin's point that LKML is generally seen as useless
> for holding actual discussions, I do not follow LKML at all due to the
> amount of mails that are not general discussions. It drowns the useful
> information in noise for me.

Yes, same for me. In general, I find the mail volume on LKML to be too
large for me to subscribe to it. Of late I have been relying more and
more on public-inbox and lei to read and browse kernel mail.

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Regards,
Pratyush Yadav