Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] [4/4] Discuss how to better prevent backports of commits that turn out to cause regressions

Takashi Iwai
2024-06-16T07:26:34Z

On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 03:13:57 +0200,
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 at 07:29, Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au> wrote:
> >
> > Message-Id: sucks, I want a link I can open with a single click.
>
> !00% agreed.
>
> There is no way in hell I will endorse adding more of those completely
> *idiotic* "Message-ID" things.
>
> Yes, people use them. It's a damn shame.
>
> There is no excuse for that completely broken model. It's objectively
> and unquestionably worse than having a "link".
>
> Here's the thing: if that message-ID isn't public, then that line
> SHOULD NOT EXIST and is an actual real problem. I personally look at
> those, and go "is that actually available on lore?"
>
> And if that message-id _is_ public, then it has a link, and it's much
> easier for people to check.
>
> Ergo: there is absolutely zero reason to ever use Message-ID.
>
> People need to stop advocating that sh*t.
>
> And no, I'm not at all happy with the fact that apparently vhost and
> kvm has made it their thing.
>
> Paolo, Michael, Takashi, please put useful links, not those braindead
> message id's in your commit messages.

Sorry for that. I used to convert Message-Id to Link in the past in a
git hook, but this got broken after migrating my workstation to a new
machine, so you saw it in my previous few PRs as a side effect.
I believe it's already fixed in the last PR.

Takashi