From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC32D3033EB for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2026 18:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1787077133; cv=none; b=JT3NFbs4Vom5tdguvzFcQCdUDbVfjTWcpDTeyzBsA7nNg10P3rpAIn8k+Vx1m/gEMjnMJsECe/OttvxsA+Iq7wmXKKvdD72KEl2kPTBXxNLbh/Gdg/cITnkhPard1VdIuYyDMsg72IrjBHRxz5mvlFaugR/3krz8/DfwgtGNAU8= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1787077133; c=relaxed/simple; bh=PhVJsXZYcL5/hHF9cDXJ/HKgicki9Xtukxw/32PlP5M=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=rG0gpAgu2Z/gd9kgKA1hsryeqtBcWMMobT5XDQHGc2lNHSrU/NFNZacAFQlAollS0CvUqRVMqsTCKL5XJwp83HS4jIVCrLI6ssdt5tQPITw/TMDrWh+pxUQ+HVtBHAwsukeeTMztZeEGJsE/9Am0VR2xr3l4rcZ7+KCk70lMj/8= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=BT2PTEM+; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="BT2PTEM+" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 526E31F000E9; Tue, 18 Aug 2026 18:18:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1787077131; bh=Ky/nINkPsuNkFlOtENpoAh/4nNhTYCHrvbEGw7lXCxw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=BT2PTEM+4LlJiL0AOXtmodSkzMIra0su3HaeTVQdGtyW60xA1jpRKBJbKlsRued4C x1WaKiX5HICkf1bpjj1gGPkjGAeKEc8l29zKLY/0KLfC0aZXAb1swBAkpsBLwu7vTP pdIW02z+8icF/Vx4mLYgvB1fSONBniXbxywFvffBsN7M+E5iC4Z679UcoRtOHbrDlS 70qyoFvfC3KgpnXMjVSPrOtmeaej862zcSIwMk95QGINCEsGUbC1MVvX3cSVbBHdjq BsBxY/fvQM/kVg2Wh7ahpB0M2ExpFZbeBqAuI91ewrvxeC4HU6nOlQf9EAbe7e7Lcw Hnvm4lv8En8vQ== Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2026 19:18:33 +0100 From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" To: Theodore Tso Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" , "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" , Steven Rostedt , Jonathan Corbet , Linus Torvalds , James Bottomley , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Andrew Morton , Dave Airlie Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Time to call it quits for the maintainer summit? Message-ID: References: <20260809170918.218792b2@gandalf.local.home> <20260810092003.5fda8e06@gandalf.local.home> <1BD1C7E7-CCA5-4BBB-94D4-83A7706E2579@infradead.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Tue, Aug 18, 2026 at 01:46:15PM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote: > > There's also the point raised about more changes on the horizon, so we > > either make it a part of the process, trust the succession planning > > takes MS into account a year (or more) ahead of time, or risk a number > > of first timers at MS. > > Personally, I'm not worried about first timers; in fact, having a > first timers is a *feature* not a bug. The opposite is the complaint > that it's always the same "clique" attending the Maintainers Summit. I mean it feels like you're batting things off again here :) if you want more first timers you would have to make changes, your analysis on that was rather flawed, another point which wasn't addressed: "That puts the number of seats filled by one-time attendees at any conference at 21.6%, not 44.9%." http://lore.kernel.org/all/anii3u-87kSrB9K3@lucifer > > Cheers, > > - Ted -- Cheers, Lorenzo