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From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 34/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: Remove support for dependent threads mode on P9
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 03:27:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1616383211.2tllx3llud.astroid@bobo.none> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ft0tzug8.fsf@linux.ibm.com>

Excerpts from Aneesh Kumar K.V's message of March 18, 2021 1:11 am:
> Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Radix guest support will be removed from the P7/8 path, so disallow
>> dependent threads mode on P9.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
>> ---
>>  arch/powerpc/include/asm/kvm_host.h |  1 -
>>  arch/powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv.c        | 27 +++++----------------------
>>  2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/kvm_host.h b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/kvm_host.h
>> index 05fb00d37609..dd017dfa4e65 100644
>> --- a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/kvm_host.h
>> +++ b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/kvm_host.h
>> @@ -304,7 +304,6 @@ struct kvm_arch {
>>  	u8 fwnmi_enabled;
>>  	u8 secure_guest;
>>  	u8 svm_enabled;
>> -	bool threads_indep;
>>  	bool nested_enable;
>>  	bool dawr1_enabled;
>>  	pgd_t *pgtable;
>> diff --git a/arch/powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv.c b/arch/powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv.c
>> index cb428e2f7140..928ed8180d9d 100644
>> --- a/arch/powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv.c
>> +++ b/arch/powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv.c
>> @@ -103,13 +103,9 @@ static int target_smt_mode;
>>  module_param(target_smt_mode, int, 0644);
>>  MODULE_PARM_DESC(target_smt_mode, "Target threads per core (0 = max)");
>>  
>> -static bool indep_threads_mode = true;
>> -module_param(indep_threads_mode, bool, S_IRUGO | S_IWUSR);
>> -MODULE_PARM_DESC(indep_threads_mode, "Independent-threads mode (only on POWER9)");
>> -
>>  static bool one_vm_per_core;
>>  module_param(one_vm_per_core, bool, S_IRUGO | S_IWUSR);
>> -MODULE_PARM_DESC(one_vm_per_core, "Only run vCPUs from the same VM on a core (requires indep_threads_mode=N)");
>> +MODULE_PARM_DESC(one_vm_per_core, "Only run vCPUs from the same VM on a core (requires POWER8 or older)");
> 
> Isn't this also a security feature, where there was an ask to make sure
> threads/vCPU from other VM won't run on this core? In that context isn't
> this applicable also for P9?

I'm not sure about an ask, but it is a possible security feature that 
would be relevant to all SMT CPUs running KVM guests.

It doesn't make much sense to plumb P9 support all through the P8 path 
just for that though, in my opinion? Is it tested? Who uses it? It's
lacking features of the P9 path.

It would be better added to KVM/QEMU in general (or until that is 
available, disable SMT, or use CPU pinning and isolcpus to prevent host 
code running on secondaries, and isolating VMs from one another, etc).

I think it's quite possible to rendezvous threads in kernel, move them
onto the threads of a core, and then have them all running in KVM code 
before they enter the guest, without disabling SMT in the host.

You could do it with kernel threads on the secondaries even, but I 
wouldn't like to have to plumb the vcore concept entirely through 
everywhere so I would actually prefer to see QEMU grow an understanding 
of it so it would know it has to call the ioctl on every guest SMT 
thread.

Thanks,
Nick

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-22  3:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-05 15:05 [PATCH v3 00/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S: C-ify the P9 entry/exit code Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 01/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: Disallow LPCR[AIL] to be set to 1 or 2 Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-08 15:26   ` Fabiano Rosas
2021-03-09  1:11     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:05 ` [PATCH v3 02/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: Prevent radix guests from setting LPCR[TC] Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-08 15:47   ` Fabiano Rosas
2021-03-09  1:14     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 03/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: Remove redundant mtspr PSPB Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-12  5:07   ` Daniel Axtens
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 04/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: remove unused kvmppc_h_protect argument Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 05/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: Fix CONFIG_SPAPR_TCE_IOMMU=n default hcalls Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 06/41] powerpc/64s: Remove KVM handler support from CBE_RAS interrupts Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 07/41] powerpc/64s: remove KVM SKIP test from instruction breakpoint handler Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 08/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: Ensure MSR[ME] is always set in guest MSR Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 09/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S 64: move KVM interrupt entry to a common entry point Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 10/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S 64: Move GUEST_MODE_SKIP test into KVM Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 11/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S 64: add hcall interrupt handler Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 12/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S 64: Move hcall early register setup to KVM Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-12  5:45   ` Daniel Axtens
2021-03-16  3:43     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 13/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S 64: Move interrupt " Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-20  7:19   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 14/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S 64: move bad_host_intr check to HV handler Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-20  9:07   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-22  3:18     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 15/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S 64: Minimise hcall handler calling convention differences Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-22  2:09   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-22  4:06   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 16/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Move radix MMU switching instructions together Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-22  4:24   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-22  5:25     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-22  6:21       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 17/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: implement kvmppc_xive_pull_vcpu in C Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-22  5:05   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-22 16:19   ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-03-22 18:13     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 18/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Move xive vcpu context management into kvmhv_p9_guest_entry Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-22  5:30   ` [PATCH v3 18/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Move xive vcpu context management into kvmhv_p9_guest_e Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 19/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Stop handling hcalls in real-mode in the P9 path Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-17 16:22   ` Fabiano Rosas
2021-03-17 22:41     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-22 16:12     ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-03-22  7:30   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-22 13:15     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-22 16:01       ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-03-22 18:22         ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-23  7:26           ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 20/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Move setting HDEC after switching to guest LPCR Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-08 17:52   ` Fabiano Rosas
2021-03-22  8:39   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-22 13:24     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 21/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Use large decrementer for HDEC Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-22  7:58   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 22/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Use host timer accounting to avoid decrementer read Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 23/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Reduce mftb per guest entry/exit Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-12 12:55   ` Fabiano Rosas
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 24/41] powerpc: add set_dec_or_work API for safely updating decrementer Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-22  9:38   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 25/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Reduce irq_work vs guest decrementer races Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-23  1:43   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 26/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Implement the rest of the P9 path in C Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 27/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: inline kvmhv_load_hv_regs_and_go into __kvmhv_vcpu_entry_p9 Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 28/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Read machine check registers while MSR[RI] is 0 Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 29/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Improve exit timing accounting coverage Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 30/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Move SPR loading after expiry time check Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 31/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Add helpers for OS SPR handling Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 32/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Switch to guest MMU context as late as possible Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 33/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: Implement radix prefetch workaround by disabling MMU Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 34/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: Remove support for dependent threads mode on P9 Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-17 15:23   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2021-03-22  3:27     ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 35/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: Remove radix guest support from P7/8 path Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 36/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: Allow all P9 processors to enable nested HV Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 37/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: small pseries_do_hcall cleanup Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 38/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add virtual mode handlers for HPT hcalls and page faults Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 39/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: implement hash guest support Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 40/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV P9: implement hash host / " Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-05 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 41/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: remove ISA v3.0 and v3.1 support from P7/8 path Nicholas Piggin
2021-03-16  6:06 ` [PATCH v3 00/41] KVM: PPC: Book3S: C-ify the P9 entry/exit code Nicholas Piggin

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