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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/27] Add KVM support for Book3s_64 (PPC64) hosts v4
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:08:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AC72294.3020500@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1254212303-8737-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de>

On 10/02/2009 02:32 AM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 11:24 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>    
>> But writing those registers often has side effects.  For example,
>> enabling interrupts should also inject an interrupt when one is
>> pending.  On x86 we have the same problem with the TPR on Windows XP, so
>> we copy it to the guest on entry (along with the pending interrupt
>> state) and back to the host on exit.  The guest uses an atomic operation
>> to change the TPR and read pending interrupt information, and if an
>> interrupt becomes unmasked, it calls a hypercall to trigger it.
>>
>> Presumably you'll be doing something similar?
>>
>> In any case, I recommend keeping fine-grained control over those bits so
>> they can be enabled/disabled/expanded as needed.
>>      
> Sure, for those who have side-effects, special care must be taken,
> either with PV tricks as Alex suggested in another reply, or by
> emulation.
>
> But for example, pretty much every time the MSR is written, it's also
> previously -read-. If we keep a shadow of the guest MSR in the "magic
> page", then we can already half the number of emulation traps simply
> by having the guest read from there instead, and still trap on writes.
>
> Those reads don't have side effects.
>    

So these MSRs can be modified by the hypervisor?  Otherwise you'd cache 
them in the guest with no hypervisor involvement, right?  (just making 
sure :)

> There's also a bunch of SPRs that don't have a direct side effect such
> as the SRRs and SPRGs which are heavily used for exception entry and
> exit. The former are storage for the PC and MSR values for a subsequent
> rfi instruction (return from interrupt) and the later are just general
> purpose storage for the kernel to save a few GPRs into in the exception
> handling code.
>
> By replacing these by, for example, absolute load/stores in a magic
> page mapped differently per-CPU (one trick we have in mind) we can
> very significantly speed up the guest kernel exception entry and exit,
> and this is without dealing with side effects.
>
> As Alex mention, we can from there try to go further for things like
> MSR changes, but you are right that this needs to be done more
> carefully.
>    

Thanks for the explanations.


-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-03 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-29  8:17 [PATCH 00/27] Add KVM support for Book3s_64 (PPC64) hosts v4 Alexander Graf
2009-09-30  8:42 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30  8:47 ` Alexander Graf
2009-09-30  8:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30  9:11 ` Alexander Graf
2009-09-30  9:24 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30  9:37 ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-02  0:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-02  0:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-03 10:08 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-10-03 10:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-03 11:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-21 15:03 ` [PATCH 00/27] Add KVM support for Book3s_64 (PPC64) hosts v5 Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03   ` [PATCH 01/27] Move dirty logging code to sub-arch Alexander Graf
     [not found]     ` <1256137413-15256-2-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03       ` [PATCH 02/27] Pass PVR in sregs Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03         ` [PATCH 03/27] Add Book3s definitions Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03           ` [PATCH 04/27] Add Book3s fields to vcpu structs Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03             ` [PATCH 05/27] Add asm/kvm_book3s.h Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03               ` [PATCH 06/27] Add Book3s_64 intercept helpers Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                 ` [PATCH 07/27] Add book3s_64 highmem asm code Alexander Graf
     [not found]                   ` <1256137413-15256-8-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                     ` [PATCH 08/27] Add SLB switching code for entry/exit Alexander Graf
     [not found]                       ` <1256137413-15256-9-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                         ` [PATCH 09/27] Add interrupt handling code Alexander Graf
     [not found]                           ` <1256137413-15256-10-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                             ` [PATCH 10/27] Add book3s.c Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                               ` [PATCH 11/27] Add book3s_64 Host MMU handling Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                 ` [PATCH 12/27] Add book3s_64 guest MMU Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                   ` <1256137413-15256-13-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                     ` [PATCH 13/27] Add book3s_32 " Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                       ` <1256137413-15256-14-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                         ` [PATCH 14/27] Add book3s_64 specific opcode emulation Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                           ` <1256137413-15256-15-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                             ` [PATCH 15/27] Add mfdec emulation Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                               ` <1256137413-15256-16-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                 ` [PATCH 16/27] Add desktop PowerPC specific emulation Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                   ` <1256137413-15256-17-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                     ` [PATCH 17/27] Make head_64.S aware of KVM real mode code Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                       ` [PATCH 18/27] Add Book3s_64 offsets to asm-offsets.c Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                         ` <1256137413-15256-19-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                           ` [PATCH 19/27] Export symbols for KVM module Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                             ` <1256137413-15256-20-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                               ` [PATCH 20/27] Split init_new_context and destroy_context Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                                 ` <1256137413-15256-21-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                   ` [PATCH 21/27] Export KVM symbols for module Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                     ` [PATCH 22/27] Add fields to PACA Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                                       ` <1256137413-15256-23-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                         ` [PATCH 23/27] Export new PACA constants in asm-offsets Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                           ` [PATCH 24/27] Include Book3s_64 target in buildsystem Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                                             ` <1256137413-15256-25-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                               ` [PATCH 25/27] Fix trace.h Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                                 ` [PATCH 26/27] Use Little Endian for Dirty Bitmap Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <1256137413-15256-27-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                                     ` [PATCH 27/27] Use hrtimers for the decrementer Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                                           ` <1256137413-15256-24-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-29  2:50                                                                             ` [PATCH 23/27] Export new PACA constants in asm-offsets Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:50                                                                         ` [PATCH 22/27] Add fields to PACA Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:48                                                                   ` [PATCH 20/27] Split init_new_context and destroy_context Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:46                                                               ` [PATCH 19/27] Export symbols for KVM module Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:53                                                                 ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-29  2:45                                                           ` [PATCH 18/27] Add Book3s_64 offsets to asm-offsets.c Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]                                                       ` <1256137413-15256-18-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-29  2:45                                                         ` [PATCH 17/27] Make head_64.S aware of KVM real mode code Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-21 15:22   ` [PATCH 00/27] Add KVM support for Book3s_64 (PPC64) hosts v5 Alexander Graf
     [not found]   ` <1256137413-15256-1-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 13:26     ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-23  0:33     ` Hollis Blanchard
     [not found]       ` <1256258028.7495.34.camel-6XWu2dSDoRTcKpUcGLbliUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-25 13:01         ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]           ` <4AE44C14.8040507-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-26 21:18             ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-10-29  2:55             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-26 22:46   ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]     ` <20091026230632.GB5366-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-26 23:20       ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-10-26 23:21         ` Olof Johansson
2009-10-27  8:56           ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-27 13:42             ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]               ` <8E92E3B9-39D5-4D71-8B8E-96B49430B67B-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-27 15:49                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-30 15:47 ` [PATCH 00/27] Add KVM support for Book3s_64 (PPC64) hosts v6 Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 02/27] Pass PVR in sregs Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 04/27] Add Book3s fields to vcpu structs Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 05/27] Add asm/kvm_book3s.h Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 06/27] Add Book3s_64 intercept helpers Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 11/27] Add book3s_64 Host MMU handling Alexander Graf
     [not found]     ` <1256917647-6200-12-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-01 23:39       ` Michael Neuling
2009-11-02  9:26         ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 17/27] Make head_64.S aware of KVM real mode code Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 18/27] Add Book3s_64 offsets to asm-offsets.c Alexander Graf
     [not found]   ` <1256917647-6200-1-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 01/27] Move dirty logging code to sub-arch Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 03/27] Add Book3s definitions Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 07/27] Add book3s_64 highmem asm code Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 08/27] Add SLB switching code for entry/exit Alexander Graf
2009-11-01 23:23       ` Michael Neuling
     [not found]         ` <6695.1257117827-/owAOxkjmzZAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-02  9:23           ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]             ` <00BF2D99-F2CE-4204-B4B4-0D113FD54CE6-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-02  9:39               ` Michael Neuling
2009-11-02  9:59                 ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 09/27] Add interrupt handling code Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 10/27] Add book3s.c Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 12/27] Add book3s_64 guest MMU Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 13/27] Add book3s_32 " Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 14/27] Add book3s_64 specific opcode emulation Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  8:47       ` Segher Boessenkool
     [not found]         ` <A1CBD511-FF08-48BB-A8D6-9F66E20F770B-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-03  9:06           ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03 21:38             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-04  8:43               ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-04  8:47                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-04 11:35                   ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-05  0:53             ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-05 10:09               ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 15/27] Add mfdec emulation Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 16/27] Add desktop PowerPC specific emulation Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 19/27] Export symbols for KVM module Alexander Graf
     [not found]       ` <1256917647-6200-20-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-31  4:37         ` Stephen Rothwell
     [not found]           ` <20091031153719.10a4e61b.sfr-3FnU+UHB4dNDw9hX6IcOSA@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-31 12:02             ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 20/27] Split init_new_context and destroy_context Alexander Graf
2009-10-31  4:40       ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-10-31 21:20         ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-31 21:37           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 21/27] Export KVM symbols for module Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 22/27] Add fields to PACA Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 27/27] Use hrtimers for the decrementer Alexander Graf
2009-11-05  6:03     ` [PATCH 00/27] Add KVM support for Book3s_64 (PPC64) hosts v6 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 23/27] Export new PACA constants in asm-offsets Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 24/27] Include Book3s_64 target in buildsystem Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 25/27] Fix trace.h Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 26/27] Use Little Endian for Dirty Bitmap Alexander Graf

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