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From: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>
Cc: Venkat Rao Bagalkote <venkat88@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)" <chleroy@kernel.org>,
	Christian Zigotzky <chzigotzky@xenosoft.de>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org" <kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"R.T.Dickinson" <rtd2@xtra.co.nz>,
	hypexed@yahoo.com.au, mad skateman <madskateman@gmail.com>,
	Christian Zigotzky <info@xenosoft.de>,
	Amit Machhiwal <amachhiw@linux.ibm.com>,
	Gautam Menghani <gautam@linux.ibm.com>,
	Harsh Prateek Bora <harshpb@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Linux PPC] Disable PREEMPT
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 22:50:41 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bebaa831-9d56-4276-9422-9c5da8ab220f@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <arFfc2apYaBuNvmC@kunlun.suse.cz>

Hi Michal,

On 9/21/26 10:16 PM, Michal Suchánek wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 10:06:22AM +0200, Michal Suchánek wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 03, 2026 at 03:28:26PM +0200, Michal Suchánek wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 03, 2026 at 06:06:16PM +0530, Harsh Prateek Bora wrote:
>>>> + Amit, Gautam - since they recently came across a similar regression which
>>>> is seen with non KVM workload as well.
>>>> + Venkat - for CI improvement suggestion below.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Michal,
>>>>
>>>> On 03/09/26 5:55 pm, Michal Suchánek wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is another problem that Linux 7.2.2 often locks up on boot inside
>>>>> the guest, and as a result a different kernel is needed in the guest to
>>>>> reproduce the host crash. This is more recent, linux 6.12 does not have
>>>>> this problem. Will try some different kernel combinations to see if I
>>>>> can narrow this down. For this the repro is merely booting the kernel in
>>>>> the VM, it typically fails early before userspace produces any messages.
>>>
>>> This one regressed between 6.19.12
>>> https://github.com/openSUSE/kernel-source/blob/9f6830f/config/ppc64le/default
>>> and 7.0.12
>>> https://github.com/openSUSE/kernel-source/blob/2ebf0bc/config/ppc64le/default
>>
>> Which is when preempt was enabled.
>>
>> Very likely preexisting problem that was exposed by enabling preemption
>> again.
>>
>> @@ -121,9 +122,7 @@ CONFIG_BPF_LSM=y
>>   
>>   CONFIG_PREEMPT_BUILD=y
>>   CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_PREEMPT_LAZY=y
>> -# CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE is not set
>> -CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y
>> -# CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
>> +CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
>>   # CONFIG_PREEMPT_LAZY is not set
>>   CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT=y
>>   CONFIG_PREEMPTION=y
> 
> Looking more into this the problem is not reproducible with 6.19 with
> full preempt, and can be reproduced with 7.0 with full preempt where
> preemtion is mandatory. It only so happens that 1.19 was last kernel
> where preemption was not mandatory and where this problem also happened
> to not manifest with the Tumbleweed config.
> 

I am bit confused. Is it different problem than the kprobe/bpf issue
which was observed on host?

Is this kvm/guest specific problem you are observing? Is it still seen
even with that kprobe/bpf fix?

> It is not deterministic enough to bisect. It's probably some kind of
> race condition or code generation problem that can surface and go away
> or become too difficult to reproduce with seemingly unrelated changes.
> 

Can you try latest kernel?

There was change recently to move to use
generic transfer to guest mode work. i.e VIRT_XFER_TO_GUEST_WORK.

> Crash happens very early but it's eemu so the memory can be saved
> regardelss. The problem is that the crash tool refuses to load the core
> bacause it detects the core as SMP and vmlinux as non-SMP or the other
> way around.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Michal
>

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-21 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-14 14:02 [Linux PPC] KVM PR and KVM HV do not work if the kernel was compiled with PREEMPT Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-17  5:02 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-17  8:52   ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-17  9:03     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-17  9:44       ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-17 10:17         ` Madhavan Srinivasan
2026-02-17 10:26           ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-17 11:34             ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-21  5:30               ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-23  3:45                 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-23 16:48                   ` [Linux PPC] 7.0-rc1: e500_mmu.c:923:26: error: assignment to 'struct tlbe_priv *' from incompatible pointer type 'struct tlbe_ref *' Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-23 18:07                     ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-02-23 19:38                       ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-02-23 22:40                         ` Kees Cook
2026-02-24  6:30                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-24  7:18                           ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-02-25  5:54               ` [Linux PPC] Disable PREEMPT Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-25  6:23                 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-25  7:16                 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-02-25 11:36                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-26  5:37                   ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-26 13:24                     ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-09-03  9:53                       ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-03 10:56                         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-03 11:25                           ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-03 11:31                             ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-03 11:40                               ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-03 12:04                                 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-03 12:25                                   ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-03 12:36                                     ` Harsh Prateek Bora
2026-09-03 12:55                                       ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-03 15:17                                         ` Amit Machhiwal
2026-09-03 13:28                                       ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-04  7:39                                         ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-21  8:06                                         ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-21 16:46                                           ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-21 17:20                                             ` Shrikanth Hegde [this message]
2026-09-22  8:22                                               ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-03 17:22                             ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-04  7:35                               ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-04  9:04                                 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-10  8:59                                   ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-10 10:41                                     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-10 11:29                                       ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-10 12:16                                         ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-11 17:09                                           ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-14 10:58                                             ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-15  5:47                                               ` Narayana Murty N
2026-09-15  7:35                                                 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-15  9:08                                                   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-16 18:11                                                     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-17 10:14                                                       ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-17 10:28                                                         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-17 13:12                                                           ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-17 14:15                                                             ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-18  2:39                                                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-18  7:10                                                                 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-20 11:49                                                                   ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-20 13:04                                                                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-21  5:12                                                                       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-23  5:09                                                                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-23  5:13                                                                           ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-23 16:01                                                                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-23 18:42                                                                               ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-24 17:47                                                                                 ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-25  6:40                                                                                   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-18  9:26                                                               ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-18 11:52                                                                 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-04  8:55                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-04  9:20                                 ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-04  9:24                                   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-04  9:34                                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-05 13:07                                       ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-07  8:50                                         ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-07 11:32                                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-10  8:54                                             ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-10 10:31                                               ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-10 11:31                                                 ` Michal Suchánek

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