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From: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Mohammed Gamal <mgamal@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vkuznets@redhat.com,
	sean.j.christopherson@intel.com, wanpengli@tencent.com,
	jmattson@google.com, joro@8bytes.org, babu.moger@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] KVM: Support guest MAXPHYADDR < host MAXPHYADDR
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 11:33:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0d1acded-93a4-c1fa-b8f8-cfca9e082cd1@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52295811-f78a-46c5-ff9e-23709ba95a3d@redhat.com>

On 6/19/20 6:07 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 19/06/20 23:52, Tom Lendacky wrote:
>>> A more subtle issue is when the host MAXPHYADDR is larger than that
>>> of the guest. Page faults caused by reserved bits on the guest won't
>>> cause an EPT violation/NPF and hence we also check guest MAXPHYADDR
>>> and add PFERR_RSVD_MASK error code to the page fault if needed.
>>
>> I'm probably missing something here, but I'm confused by this
>> statement. Is this for a case where a page has been marked not
>> present and the guest has also set what it believes are reserved
>> bits? Then when the page is accessed, the guest sees a page fault
>> without the error code for reserved bits?
> 
> No, for non-present page there is no issue because there are no reserved
> bits in that case.  If the page is present and no reserved bits are set
> according to the host, however, there are two cases to consider:
> 
> - if the page is not accessible to the guest according to the
> permissions in the page table, it will cause a #PF.  We need to trap it
> and change the error code into P|RSVD if the guest physical address has
> any guest-reserved bits.

I'm not a big fan of trapping #PF for this. Can't this have a performance
impact on the guest? If I'm not mistaken, Qemu will default to TCG
physical address size (40-bits), unless told otherwise, causing #PF to now
be trapped. Maybe libvirt defaults to matching host/guest CPU MAXPHYADDR?

In bare-metal, there's no guarantee a CPU will report all the faults in a
single PF error code. And because of race conditions, software can never
rely on that behavior. Whenever the OS thinks it has cured an error, it
must always be able to handle another #PF for the same access when it
retries because another processor could have modified the PTE in the
meantime. What's the purpose of reporting RSVD in the error code in the
guest in regards to live migration?

> 
> - if the page is accessible to the guest according to the permissions in
> the page table, it will cause a #NPF.  Again, we need to trap it, check
> the guest physical address and inject a P|RSVD #PF if the guest physical
> address has any guest-reserved bits.
> 
> The AMD specific issue happens in the second case.  By the time the NPF
> vmexit occurs, the accessed and/or dirty bits have been set and this
> should not have happened before the RSVD page fault that we want to
> inject.  On Intel processors, instead, EPT violations trigger before
> accessed and dirty bits are set.  I cannot find an explicit mention of
> the intended behavior in either the
> Intel SDM or the AMD APM.

Section 15.25.6 of the AMD APM volume 2 talks about page faults (nested vs
guest) and fault ordering. It does talk about setting guest A/D bits
during the walk, before an #NPF is taken. I don't see any way around that
given a virtual MAXPHYADDR in the guest being less than the host MAXPHYADDR.

Thanks,
Tom

> 
> Paolo
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-22 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-19 15:39 [PATCH v2 00/11] KVM: Support guest MAXPHYADDR < host MAXPHYADDR Mohammed Gamal
2020-06-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] KVM: x86: Add helper functions for illegal GPA checking and page fault injection Mohammed Gamal
2020-06-22  4:44   ` Yuan Yao
2020-06-22 12:21     ` Mohammed Gamal
2020-06-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] KVM: x86: mmu: Move translate_gpa() to mmu.c Mohammed Gamal
2020-06-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] KVM: x86: mmu: Add guest physical address check in translate_gpa() Mohammed Gamal
2020-06-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] KVM: x86: rename update_bp_intercept to update_exception_bitmap Mohammed Gamal
2020-06-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] KVM: x86: update exception bitmap on CPUID changes Mohammed Gamal
2020-06-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] KVM: VMX: introduce vmx_need_pf_intercept Mohammed Gamal
2020-06-19 22:45   ` Jim Mattson
2020-06-22 13:57     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] KVM: VMX: Add guest physical address check in EPT violation and misconfig Mohammed Gamal
2020-06-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] KVM: VMX: optimize #PF injection when MAXPHYADDR does not match Mohammed Gamal
2020-06-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] KVM: SVM: introduce svm_need_pf_intercept Mohammed Gamal
2020-06-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] KVM: SVM: Add guest physical address check in NPF/PF interception Mohammed Gamal
2020-06-19 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] KVM: x86: SVM: VMX: Make GUEST_MAXPHYADDR < HOST_MAXPHYADDR support configurable Mohammed Gamal
2020-06-19 15:43 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] KVM: Support guest MAXPHYADDR < host MAXPHYADDR Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-19 21:52 ` Tom Lendacky
2020-06-19 23:07   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-22 16:33     ` Tom Lendacky [this message]
2020-06-22 17:03       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-22 17:57         ` Tom Lendacky
2020-06-22 18:01           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-22 19:14             ` Tom Lendacky
2020-06-22 22:20               ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-22 23:47     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-06-23  0:52       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-22 15:08   ` Mohammed Gamal
2020-06-22 15:23     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-22 16:35       ` Tom Lendacky
2020-06-22  4:32 ` Yuan Yao

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