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From: Rusty Russell <rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
To: Dor Laor <dor.laor-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	virtualization
	<virtualization-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] PV-IO v3
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:58:42 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1187683122.19435.171.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160D464FEB-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 00:33 -0700, Dor Laor wrote:
> >> > Well, for cache reasons you should really try to avoid having both
> >sides
> >> > write to the same data.  Hence two separate cache-aligned regions
> is
> >> > better than one region and a flip bit.
> >>
> >> While I certainly can see what you mean about the cache implications
> >for
> >> a bit-flip design, I don't see how you can get away with not having
> >both
> >> sides write to the same memory in other designs either.  Wouldn't you
> >> still have to adjust descriptors from one ring to the other?  E.g.
> >> wouldn't both sides be writing descriptor pointer data in this case,
> >or
> >> am I missing something?
> >
> >Hi Gregory,
> >
> >	You can have separate produced and consumed counters: see for
> >example
> >Van Jacobson's Netchannels presentation
> >http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/vj/lca06vj.pdf page 23.
> >
> >	This single consumed count isn't sufficient if you can consume
> >out-of-order: for that you really want a second "reply" ringbuffer
> >indicating what buffers are consumed.
> >
> 
> Rusty, although your code works pretty nice, (I'll send some raw patches
> later on today with 
> kvm support for virtio). I was wandering why didn't you use Xen's ring
> implementation?
> They have separate counters and also union for the request/response
> structure in the same
> descriptor.

Partly the horror of the code, but mainly because it is an in-order
ring.  You'll note that we use a reply ring, so we don't need to know
how much the other side has consumed (and it needn't do so in order).

Cheers,
Rusty.



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-21  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-16 23:13 [PATCH 00/10] PV-IO v3 Gregory Haskins
     [not found] ` <20070816231357.8044.55943.stgit-5CR4LY5GPkvLDviKLk5550HKjMygAv58XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-16 23:14   ` [PATCH 01/10] IOQ: Adding basic definitions for IO-Queue logic Gregory Haskins
2007-08-16 23:14   ` [PATCH 02/10] PARAVIRTUALIZATION: Add support for a bus abstraction Gregory Haskins
2007-08-16 23:14   ` [PATCH 03/10] IOQ: Add an IOQ network driver Gregory Haskins
2007-08-16 23:14   ` [PATCH 04/10] IOQNET: Add a test harness infrastructure to IOQNET Gregory Haskins
2007-08-16 23:14   ` [PATCH 05/10] IRQ: Export create_irq/destroy_irq Gregory Haskins
2007-08-16 23:14   ` [PATCH 06/10] KVM: Add a guest side driver for IOQ Gregory Haskins
2007-08-16 23:14   ` [PATCH 07/10] KVM: Add a gpa_to_hva helper function Gregory Haskins
2007-08-16 23:14   ` [PATCH 08/10] KVM: Add support for IOQ Gregory Haskins
2007-08-16 23:14   ` [PATCH 09/10] KVM: Add PVBUS support to the KVM host Gregory Haskins
2007-08-16 23:14   ` [PATCH 10/10] KVM: Add an IOQNET backend driver Gregory Haskins
2007-08-17  1:25   ` [PATCH 00/10] PV-IO v3 Rusty Russell
     [not found]     ` <1187313953.6449.70.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-17  5:26       ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]         ` <1187328402.4363.110.camel-5CR4LY5GPkvLDviKLk5550HKjMygAv58XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-17  7:43           ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]             ` <1187336618.6449.106.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-17 13:50               ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]                 ` <1187358614.4363.135.camel-5CR4LY5GPkvLDviKLk5550HKjMygAv58XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-20 23:28                   ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                     ` <1187652496.19435.141.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-21  7:33                       ` Dor Laor
     [not found]                         ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160D464FEB-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-21  7:58                           ` Rusty Russell [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <1187683122.19435.171.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-21 12:00                               ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]                                 ` <1187697638.4363.277.camel-5CR4LY5GPkvLDviKLk5550HKjMygAv58XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-21 12:25                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                     ` <46CAD9CC.6050209-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-21 13:11                                       ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-21 13:47                                   ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                     ` <1187704038.19435.194.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-21 14:06                                       ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]                                         ` <1187705162.4363.323.camel-5CR4LY5GPkvLDviKLk5550HKjMygAv58XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-21 16:47                                           ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]                                             ` <1187714864.4363.358.camel-5CR4LY5GPkvLDviKLk5550HKjMygAv58XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-21 17:12                                               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                 ` <46CB1D06.1040005-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-21 17:17                                                   ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-22  3:29                                               ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                                 ` <1187753365.6174.26.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22  9:18                                                   ` Christian Borntraeger
     [not found]                                                     ` <200708221118.00990.borntraeger-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22  9:26                                                       ` Dor Laor
     [not found]                                                         ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160D503D81-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22  9:30                                                           ` Christian Borntraeger
     [not found]                                                             ` <200708221130.17364.borntraeger-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22 10:05                                                               ` Dor Laor
2007-08-22 10:40                                                           ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                                             ` <1187779205.6174.87.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-22 11:47                                                               ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-21 12:29                               ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-19  9:24       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <46C80C5B.7070009-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-20 13:50           ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-20 14:03             ` [kvm-devel] " Dor Laor
     [not found]               ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160D4649E2-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-20 14:12                 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                   ` <46C9A150.60101-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-20 23:24                     ` Rusty Russell
2007-08-20 14:17                 ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]             ` <1187617806.4363.179.camel-5CR4LY5GPkvLDviKLk5550HKjMygAv58XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-20 14:14               ` Avi Kivity

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