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From: Rusty Russell <rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: virtio & hypercall interface?
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:50:12 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1189929012.7262.105.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46EBA806.6070507-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 12:38 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> I don't see why there is a difference.  With mmio, the host tells the
> guest where the ring is.  With dma, the guest tells the host where the
> ring is.  In both cases, you need some form of communication (read-only
> for mmio, write-only for dma).
> 
> For mmio, the mechanism is standardized within pci; for dma it is not,
> but it is still just as simple, write to some word in pci config space
> and you're done.

No, you already need a r/o, whatever you use.  That's because you need
to describe the features of the device (eg disk size).

> If early printk can't handle pci, we can provide a pio port that does
> byte-at-a-time output.

It's not that it can't handle PCI, it's that it now needs to find a page
to use.  That's less trivial than using an already-existing page.

As for making suspend/resume more complex, I can't see it.  Make the
guest memory a few pages bigger, and don't tell the guest about those
extra pages (that's waht lguest does today: those mmio pages are just
above top of "normal" RAM).

Now, we might want some mmio space for our "kick", rather than a
hypercall, but that's separate from the ring buffers.

Rusty.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-16  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-13  6:21 virtio & hypercall interface? Rusty Russell
     [not found] ` <1189664514.32322.14.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-13 19:21   ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]     ` <46E98DC0.3050509-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-13 21:26       ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]         ` <1189718818.32322.41.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-13 21:41           ` Anthony Liguori
2007-09-13 20:33   ` Dor Laor
     [not found]     ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160DA17EF2-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-13 20:45       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]         ` <46E9A17D.5040205-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-14 16:46           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <46EABAD0.40300-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-14 22:31               ` Dor Laor
     [not found]                 ` <46EB0BD8.6040000-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-15  3:06                   ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                     ` <1189825560.7262.77.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-15  8:05                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <46EB9245.4010005-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-15  8:32                           ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                             ` <1189845153.7262.94.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-15  9:38                               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                 ` <46EBA806.6070507-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-16  7:50                                   ` Rusty Russell [this message]
     [not found]                                     ` <1189929012.7262.105.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-16  8:57                                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                         ` <46ECEFEE.6000208-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-16  9:35                                           ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                             ` <1189935324.7262.120.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-16  9:45                                               ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-15  7:59                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-15 17:31                   ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                     ` <46EC1709.2080803-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-15 21:56                       ` Dor Laor
     [not found]                         ` <46EC5515.2020004-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-15 22:49                           ` Anthony Liguori
2007-09-14 16:44   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <46EABA59.10808-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-14 16:49       ` Anthony Liguori

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