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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Glauber de Oliveira Costa <gcosta@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	--cc@redhat.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	avi@quramnet.com, kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] raise tsc clocksource rating
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:26:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1193707616.11323.6.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.9999.0710292315280.3186@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 23:17 +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007, Glauber de Oliveira Costa wrote:
> 
> CC'ed John and removed glauber@t60.localdomain :)
> 
> > From: Glauber de Oliveira Costa <glauber@t60.localdomain>
> > 
> > tsc is very good time source (when it does not have drifts, does not
> > change it's frequency, i.e. when it works), so it should have its rating
> > raised to a value greater than, or equal 400.

But all of those qualities (and more) make it less then ideal.

What issue exactly does this patch resolve?

> > Since it's being a tendency among paravirt clocksources to use values
> > around 400, we should declare tsc as even better: So we use 500.

This is the rating inflation I was initially worried about and created
the advisory scale to avoid. If paravirt clocksources are rated too
high, they should be dropped. 

I strongly disagree that the TSC is a "perfect" clocksource, and I think
its rating is appropriate. 


> > This patch also touches the comments on clocksource.h, which suggests
> > that 499 would be a limit on the rating values.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Glauber de Oliveira Costa <gcosta@redhat.com>
> 
> Acked-by: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>

If a better justification can be provided, I might reconsider, but right
now I can't ack this.

thanks
-john

> > ---
> >  arch/x86/kernel/tsc_32.c    |    2 +-
> >  arch/x86/kernel/tsc_64.c    |    2 +-
> >  include/linux/clocksource.h |    2 +-
> >  3 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc_32.c b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc_32.c
> > index 9ebc0da..4d91e59 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc_32.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc_32.c
> > @@ -280,7 +280,7 @@ static cycle_t read_tsc(void)
> >  
> >  static struct clocksource clocksource_tsc = {
> >  	.name			= "tsc",
> > -	.rating			= 300,
> > +	.rating			= 500,
> >  	.read			= read_tsc,
> >  	.mask			= CLOCKSOURCE_MASK(64),
> >  	.mult			= 0, /* to be set */
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc_64.c b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc_64.c
> > index 9c70af4..4fd5b1b 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc_64.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc_64.c
> > @@ -262,7 +262,7 @@ static cycle_t __vsyscall_fn vread_tsc(void)
> >  
> >  static struct clocksource clocksource_tsc = {
> >  	.name			= "tsc",
> > -	.rating			= 300,
> > +	.rating			= 500,
> >  	.read			= read_tsc,
> >  	.mask			= CLOCKSOURCE_MASK(64),
> >  	.shift			= 22,
> > diff --git a/include/linux/clocksource.h b/include/linux/clocksource.h
> > index 107787a..5b0aadd 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/clocksource.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/clocksource.h
> > @@ -39,7 +39,7 @@ struct clocksource;
> >   *				A correct and usable clocksource.
> >   *			300-399: Desired.
> >   *				A reasonably fast and accurate clocksource.
> > - *			400-499: Perfect
> > + *			>= 400 : Perfect
> >   *				The ideal clocksource. A must-use where
> >   *				available.
> >   * @read:		returns a cycle value
> > -- 
> > 1.5.0.6
> > 
> > -
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-30  1:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-29 23:10 [PATCH] raise tsc clocksource rating Glauber de Oliveira Costa
     [not found] ` <11936994092607-git-send-email-gcosta-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 22:17   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-10-29 22:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30  1:26     ` john stultz [this message]
     [not found]     ` <alpine.LFD.0.9999.0710292315280.3186-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30  2:39       ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]         ` <200710301339.23628.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30  7:37           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]             ` <20071030073736.GA21843-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 10:52               ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-30 12:13               ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-29 22:42   ` Zachary Amsden
     [not found]     ` <1193697734.9793.86.camel-cxY/u30q8FloTgUnLF1by8fTvwmfpRNyZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 22:45       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 22:48     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]       ` <20071029224852.GA27547-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 22:52         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 22:55           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]             ` <20071029225528.GA31293-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:17               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found]                 ` <47266A00.4040408-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:21                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                     ` <20071029232140.GA10518-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:33                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-30  0:45                     ` Ian Pratt
     [not found]                       ` <8A87A9A84C201449A0C56B728ACF491E34C5F5-sZfJFUT1i4lUWNNKjvdVWtlxNDNUtst69dF7HbQ/qKg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30  7:19                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 22:55         ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-29 23:02           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 23:13             ` Zachary Amsden
     [not found]               ` <1193699638.9793.97.camel-cxY/u30q8FloTgUnLF1by8fTvwmfpRNyZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:17                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30 12:02                 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
     [not found]                   ` <47271D4A.8030707-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 17:58                     ` Zachary Amsden
     [not found]             ` <20071029230213.GA1982-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:24               ` Dan Hecht
     [not found]                 ` <47266B90.8000008-pghWNbHTmq7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30  4:24                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-10-30  7:14                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]           ` <1193698505.9793.90.camel-cxY/u30q8FloTgUnLF1by8fTvwmfpRNyZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 11:59             ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-30  0:17   ` H. Peter Anvin

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