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From: Hollis Blanchard <hollisb-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: carsteno-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	kvm-ppc-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	"Zhang,
	 Xiantao" <xiantao.zhang-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0 of 3] create kvm_x86
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:08:10 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1196460490.7103.67.camel@basalt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47508408.8050202-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 15:43 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Hollis Blanchard wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 22:31 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >      
> >> These cannot use the same method, since we need to support both vmx and
> >> svm in the same binary.  The arch specific members aren't the same size,
> >> nor do the symbols they use have the same visibility.
> >>     
> >
> > I have never understood this. Why on earth do you need to support VMX
> > and SVM in the same binary? For example, when would you overwrite
> > kvm_x86_ops after initialization? If you wouldn't, then why are you
> > using function pointers instead of the linker?
> >   
> 
> It's necessary for the distros to be able to ship both AMD and Intel 
> support in a single binary.  We aren't talking, in general, about a 
> single static binary but instead loadable modules.  There maybe some 
> cases where it's useful to support both in a static kernel binary.

I think the monolithic case is the one I overlooked. As long as
everything is a module, there should be no problem loading the
appropriate module for the host processor type. However, once you want
to support both processor types in a monolithic kernel, that's where you
need the function pointer flexibility.

> If you used the linker instead of function pointers, it would be 
> impossible to build a static kernel binary that supported both.  Plus, 
> depmod would get very confused because two modules would be providing 
> the same symbols.  It can be made to work, but it's kind of funky.
> 
> > PowerPC will also need to support multiple processor types, and so I
> > expect to have one kvm_arch structure for each. That also means struct
> > kvm_arch must be the *last* member in struct kvm, which is not how it is
> > shown above.
> >   
> 
> Instead of having a kvm.ko and a kvm-ppc-440.ko, you probably should 
> have a kvm.ko and a kvm-ppc.ko and then build the kvm-ppc.ko based on 
> the board.  You would never build multiple kvm-ppc-XXX.ko modules in the 
> same binary right?

I hope to have multiple kvm-ppc-XXX.ko modules loaded simultaneously to
support different guest types on the same host. I haven't yet figured
out what that interface should look like, but obviously linking is
preferable to function pointers where feasible.

-- 
Hollis Blanchard
IBM Linux Technology Center


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-30 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-20 16:57 [PATCH 0 of 3] create kvm_x86 Hollis Blanchard
2007-11-20 16:57 ` [PATCH 1 of 3] Use kvm_x86 to hold x86 specific kvm fields Hollis Blanchard
2007-11-28 21:20   ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]     ` <474DDB97.6090400-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-28 21:43       ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-11-20 16:57 ` [PATCH 2 of 3] Move vm_stat and apic_access_page to kvm_x86 Hollis Blanchard
2007-11-21  9:09 ` [PATCH 0 of 3] create kvm_x86 Carsten Otte
     [not found]   ` <4743F5AE.8090707-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-21  9:18     ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]       ` <4743F7DF.4000107-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-21  9:32         ` Amit Shah
2007-11-21  9:39         ` Carsten Otte
2007-11-21  9:42         ` Zhang, Xiantao
     [not found]           ` <42DFA526FC41B1429CE7279EF83C6BDC9E7193-wq7ZOvIWXbMAbVU2wMM1CrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-21  9:55             ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-28 21:15         ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-11-30  7:26           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <474FBB17.6080800-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-30  8:36               ` Zhang, Xiantao
     [not found]                 ` <42DFA526FC41B1429CE7279EF83C6BDCA397C1-wq7ZOvIWXbMAbVU2wMM1CrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-30  9:04                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <474FD234.5060203-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-30 11:42                       ` Zhang, Xiantao
2007-11-30 18:43                       ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-11-30 20:31                         ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                           ` <4750732B.7070502-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-30 21:09                             ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-11-30 21:43                               ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                                 ` <47508408.8050202-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-30 22:08                                   ` Hollis Blanchard [this message]
2007-12-01 10:04                                     ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-01 10:02                               ` Avi Kivity

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