From: Hollis Blanchard <hollisb-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: carsteno-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
kvm-ppc-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
"Zhang,
Xiantao" <xiantao.zhang-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0 of 3] create kvm_x86
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:08:10 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1196460490.7103.67.camel@basalt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47508408.8050202-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 15:43 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Hollis Blanchard wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 22:31 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >
> >> These cannot use the same method, since we need to support both vmx and
> >> svm in the same binary. The arch specific members aren't the same size,
> >> nor do the symbols they use have the same visibility.
> >>
> >
> > I have never understood this. Why on earth do you need to support VMX
> > and SVM in the same binary? For example, when would you overwrite
> > kvm_x86_ops after initialization? If you wouldn't, then why are you
> > using function pointers instead of the linker?
> >
>
> It's necessary for the distros to be able to ship both AMD and Intel
> support in a single binary. We aren't talking, in general, about a
> single static binary but instead loadable modules. There maybe some
> cases where it's useful to support both in a static kernel binary.
I think the monolithic case is the one I overlooked. As long as
everything is a module, there should be no problem loading the
appropriate module for the host processor type. However, once you want
to support both processor types in a monolithic kernel, that's where you
need the function pointer flexibility.
> If you used the linker instead of function pointers, it would be
> impossible to build a static kernel binary that supported both. Plus,
> depmod would get very confused because two modules would be providing
> the same symbols. It can be made to work, but it's kind of funky.
>
> > PowerPC will also need to support multiple processor types, and so I
> > expect to have one kvm_arch structure for each. That also means struct
> > kvm_arch must be the *last* member in struct kvm, which is not how it is
> > shown above.
> >
>
> Instead of having a kvm.ko and a kvm-ppc-440.ko, you probably should
> have a kvm.ko and a kvm-ppc.ko and then build the kvm-ppc.ko based on
> the board. You would never build multiple kvm-ppc-XXX.ko modules in the
> same binary right?
I hope to have multiple kvm-ppc-XXX.ko modules loaded simultaneously to
support different guest types on the same host. I haven't yet figured
out what that interface should look like, but obviously linking is
preferable to function pointers where feasible.
--
Hollis Blanchard
IBM Linux Technology Center
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-20 16:57 [PATCH 0 of 3] create kvm_x86 Hollis Blanchard
2007-11-20 16:57 ` [PATCH 1 of 3] Use kvm_x86 to hold x86 specific kvm fields Hollis Blanchard
2007-11-28 21:20 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <474DDB97.6090400-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-28 21:43 ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-11-20 16:57 ` [PATCH 2 of 3] Move vm_stat and apic_access_page to kvm_x86 Hollis Blanchard
2007-11-21 9:09 ` [PATCH 0 of 3] create kvm_x86 Carsten Otte
[not found] ` <4743F5AE.8090707-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-21 9:18 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4743F7DF.4000107-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-21 9:32 ` Amit Shah
2007-11-21 9:39 ` Carsten Otte
2007-11-21 9:42 ` Zhang, Xiantao
[not found] ` <42DFA526FC41B1429CE7279EF83C6BDC9E7193-wq7ZOvIWXbMAbVU2wMM1CrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-21 9:55 ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-28 21:15 ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-11-30 7:26 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <474FBB17.6080800-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-30 8:36 ` Zhang, Xiantao
[not found] ` <42DFA526FC41B1429CE7279EF83C6BDCA397C1-wq7ZOvIWXbMAbVU2wMM1CrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-30 9:04 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <474FD234.5060203-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-30 11:42 ` Zhang, Xiantao
2007-11-30 18:43 ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-11-30 20:31 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4750732B.7070502-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-30 21:09 ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-11-30 21:43 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <47508408.8050202-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-30 22:08 ` Hollis Blanchard [this message]
2007-12-01 10:04 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-01 10:02 ` Avi Kivity
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