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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>, Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>, Izik Eidus <izike@qumranet.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	steiner@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, daniel.blueman@quadrics.com,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/6] mmu_notifier: Core code
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:17:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1202235473.19243.25.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080205180557.GC29502@shadowen.org>


On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 18:05 +0000, Andy Whitcroft wrote:

> > +	if (unlikely(!hlist_empty(&mm->mmu_notifier.head))) {
> > +		rcu_read_lock();
> > +		hlist_for_each_entry_safe_rcu(mn, n, t,
> > +					  &mm->mmu_notifier.head, hlist) {
> > +			if (mn->ops->release)
> > +				mn->ops->release(mn, mm);
> 
> Does this ->release actually release the 'nm' and its associated hlist?
> I see in this thread that this ordering is deemed "use after free" which
> implies so.
> 
> If it does that seems wrong.  This is an RCU hlist, therefore the list
> integrity must be maintained through the next grace period in case there
> are parallell readers using the element, in particular its forward
> pointer for traversal.

That is not quite so, list elements must be preserved, not the list
order.

> 
> > +			hlist_del(&mn->hlist);
> 
> For this to be updating the list, you must have some form of "write-side"
> exclusion as these primatives are not "parallel write safe".  It would
> be helpful for this routine to state what that write side exclusion is.

Yeah, has been noticed, read on in the thread :-)

> I am not sure it makes sense to add a _safe_rcu variant.  As I understand
> things an _safe variant is used where we are going to remove the current
> list element in the middle of a list walk.  However the key feature of an
> RCU data structure is that it will always be in a "safe" state until any
> parallel readers have completed.  For an hlist this means that the removed
> entry and its forward link must remain valid for as long as there may be
> a parallel reader traversing this list, ie. until the next grace period.
> If this link is valid for the parallel reader, then it must be valid for
> us, and if so it feels that hlist_for_each_entry_rcu should be sufficient
> to cope in the face of entries being unlinked as we traverse the list.

It does make sense, hlist_del_rcu() maintains the fwd reference, but it
does unlink it from the list proper. As long as there is a write side
exclusion around the actual removal as you noted.

rcu_read_lock();
hlist_for_each_entry_safe_rcu(tpos, pos, n, head, member) {

	if (foo) {
		spin_lock(write_lock);
		hlist_del_rcu(tpos);
		spin_unlock(write_unlock);
	}
}
rcu_read_unlock();

is a safe construct in that the list itself stays a proper list, and
even items that might be caught in the to-be-deleted entries will have a
fwd way out.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-05 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-28 20:28 [patch 0/6] [RFC] MMU Notifiers V2 Christoph Lameter
2008-01-28 20:28 ` [patch 1/6] mmu_notifier: Core code Christoph Lameter
     [not found]   ` <20080128202923.609249585-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-28 22:06     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29  0:05     ` Robin Holt
     [not found]       ` <20080129000534.GT3058-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29  1:19         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 13:59     ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]       ` <20080129135914.GF7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 14:34         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-29 19:49         ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801291148080.24807-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 20:41             ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-29 16:07     ` Robin Holt
2008-02-05 18:05     ` Andy Whitcroft
2008-02-05 18:17       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
     [not found]       ` <20080205180557.GC29502-26w3C0LaAnFg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2008-02-05 18:19         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-28 20:28 ` [patch 2/6] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Christoph Lameter
     [not found]   ` <20080128202923.849058104-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 16:20     ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]       ` <20080129162004.GL7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 18:28         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]           ` <20080129182831.GS7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 20:30             ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801291219030.25629-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 21:36                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                   ` <20080129213604.GW7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 21:53                     ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801291343530.26824-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 22:35                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                           ` <20080129223503.GY7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 22:55                             ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801291440170.27327-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 23:43                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                   ` <20080129234353.GZ7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30  0:34                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 19:55         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 21:17           ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]             ` <20080129211759.GV7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 21:35               ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801291327330.26649-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 22:02                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                     ` <20080129220212.GX7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 22:39                       ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801291407380.27104-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30  0:00                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                             ` <20080130000039.GA7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30  0:05                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                 ` <20080130000559.GB7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30  0:22                                   ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801291621380.28027-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30  0:59                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-30  8:26                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-30  0:20                               ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801291620170.28027-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30  0:28                                   ` Jack Steiner
     [not found]                                     ` <20080130002804.GA13840-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30  0:35                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30 13:37                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                         ` <20080130133720.GM7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 14:43                                           ` Jack Steiner
     [not found]                                             ` <20080130144305.GA25193-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 19:41                                               ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801301140320.30568-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 20:29                                                   ` Jack Steiner
     [not found]                                                     ` <20080130202918.GB11324-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 20:55                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30 16:11                               ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                 ` <20080130161123.GS26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 17:04                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                     ` <20080130170451.GP7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 17:30                                       ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                         ` <20080130173009.GT26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 18:25                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                             ` <20080130182506.GQ7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 19:50                                               ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801301147330.30568-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 22:18                                                   ` Robin Holt
2008-01-30 23:52                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                   ` <20080130235214.GC7185-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31  0:01                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801301555550.1722-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31  0:34                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                           ` <20080131003434.GE7185-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31  1:46                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801301728110.2454-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31  2:34                                                                 ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20080131023401.GY26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31  2:37                                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  2:56                                                                     ` mmu_notifier: invalidate_range_start with lock=1 Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 10:52                                                                 ` [patch 2/6] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31  2:08                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801301805200.14071-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31  2:42                                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20080131024252.GF7185-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31  2:51                                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801301848550.14263-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31 13:39                                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-30 19:35                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-28 20:28 ` [patch 3/6] mmu_notifier: invalidate_page callbacks for subsystems with rmap Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 16:28   ` Robin Holt
2008-01-28 20:28 ` [patch 4/6] MMU notifier: invalidate_page callbacks using Linux rmaps Christoph Lameter
     [not found]   ` <20080128202924.334342410-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 14:03     ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]       ` <20080129140345.GG7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 14:24         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]           ` <20080129142452.GH7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 19:51             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-28 20:28 ` [patch 5/6] mmu_notifier: Callbacks for xip_filemap.c Christoph Lameter
2008-01-28 20:28 ` [patch 6/6] mmu_notifier: Add invalidate_all() Christoph Lameter
2008-01-29 16:31   ` Robin Holt
     [not found]     ` <20080129163158.GX3058-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-29 20:02       ` Christoph Lameter
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-01-30  2:29 [patch 0/6] [RFC] MMU Notifiers V3 Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30  2:29 ` [patch 1/6] mmu_notifier: Core code Christoph Lameter
     [not found]   ` <20080130022944.236370194-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 15:37     ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]       ` <20080130153749.GN7233-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 15:53         ` Jack Steiner
     [not found]           ` <20080130155306.GA13746-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 16:38             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-30 19:19             ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801301116510.27491-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 22:20                 ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                   ` <20080130222035.GX26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 23:38                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-30 23:55                       ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801301552210.1722-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31  0:12                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                             ` <20080131001258.GD7185-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-31  1:27                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30 17:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-30 19:28         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30 18:02     ` Robin Holt
     [not found]       ` <20080130180207.GU26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-30 19:08         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-30 19:14         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-08 22:06 [patch 0/6] MMU Notifiers V6 Christoph Lameter
2008-02-08 22:06 ` [patch 1/6] mmu_notifier: Core code Christoph Lameter
2008-02-15  6:48 [ofa-general] [patch 0/6] MMU Notifiers V7 Christoph Lameter
2008-02-15  6:49 ` [patch 1/6] mmu_notifier: Core code Christoph Lameter
2008-02-16  3:37   ` [ofa-general] " Andrew Morton
2008-02-16  8:45     ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-16  8:56       ` [ofa-general] " Andrew Morton
2008-02-16  9:21         ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-16 19:21     ` [ofa-general] " Christoph Lameter
2008-02-17  3:01       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-17 12:24         ` Robin Holt
2008-02-17  5:04     ` Doug Maxey

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