From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pekka Enberg Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/31] Implement user mode network for kvm tools Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 12:42:20 +0300 Message-ID: <1309599740.21962.20.camel@jaguar> References: <1309423279-3093-1-git-send-email-asias.hejun@gmail.com> <4E0C96FF.4090801@codemonkey.ws> <4E0D1238.3020506@gmail.com> <20110701115308.GJ20990@elte.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Asias He , Anthony Liguori , Stefan Hajnoczi , Cyrill Gorcunov , Sasha Levin , Prasad Joshi , kvm@vger.kernel.org To: Ingo Molnar Return-path: Received: from filtteri5.pp.htv.fi ([213.243.153.188]:33606 "EHLO filtteri5.pp.htv.fi" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752076Ab1GBJmX (ORCPT ); Sat, 2 Jul 2011 05:42:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20110701115308.GJ20990@elte.hu> Sender: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 13:53 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Asias He wrote: > > > > Usermode TCP/IP can be quite cumbersome for users as things like > > > ping and ip6 won't work properly. > > > > Yes, usermode TCP/IP do have limits. But it's more cumbersome for > > user to setup bridge/nat thing with privileged networking. The > > network setup is a headache for some users. > > That group of 'some users' includes me for example. Me too. > The thing is, when i test an existing distro image there's better > things to do with my time than to figure out that year's preferred > method of configuring the network and troubleshooting it if it goes > wrong. So having zero-config networking (assuming we grow some DHCP > capability as well) would be a real plus. Yes, we want DHCP or whatever is needed for out-of-the-box distro images to enable networking in the guest. Pekka