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From: Michael Wolf <mjw@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, mtosatti@redhat.com, mingo@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/3] Add guest cpu_entitlement reporting
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:53:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1346104436.8623.33.camel@lambeau> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <503BE96E.3000205@parallels.com>

On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 14:41 -0700, Glauber Costa wrote:
> On 08/27/2012 02:27 PM, Michael Wolf wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 13:31 -0700, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >> On 08/27/2012 01:23 PM, Michael Wolf wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> How would a guest know what its entitlement is?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Currently the Admin/management tool setting up the guests will put it on
> >>> the qemu commandline.  From this it is passed via an ioctl to the host.
> >>> The guest will get the value from the host via a hypercall.
> >>>
> >>> In the future the host could try and do some of it automatically in some
> >>> cases. 
> >>
> >> Seems to me it's a meaningless value for the guest.  Suppose it is
> >> migrated to a host that is more powerful, and as a result its relative
> >> entitlement is reduced.  The value needs to be adjusted.
> > 
> > This is why I chose to manage the value from the sysctl interface rather
> > than just have it stored as a value in /proc.  Whatever tool was used to
> > migrate the vm could hopefully adjust the sysctl value on the guest.
> >>
> >> This is best taken care of from the host side.
> > 
> > Not sure what you are getting at here.  If you are running in a cloud
> > environment, you purchase a VM with the understanding that you are
> > getting certain resources.  As this type of user I don't believe you
> > have any access to the host to see this type of information.  So the
> > user still wouldnt have a way to confirm that they are receiving what
> > they should be in the way of processor resources.
> > 
> > Would you please elaborate a little more on this?
> 
> What do you mean they have no access to the host?
> They have access to all sorts of tools that display information from the
> host. Speaking of a view-only resource, those are strictly equivalent.
> 
> 
> 

ok.  I will go look at those resources. 


  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-27 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-23 23:14 [PATCH RFC 0/3] Add guest cpu_entitlement reporting Michael Wolf
2012-08-23 23:14 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] Add a sysctl interface to control and report the cpu entitlement setting Michael Wolf
2012-08-23 23:14 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] Add a hypercall to retrieve the cpu entitlement value from the host Michael Wolf
2012-08-23 23:14 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] Modify the amount of stealtime that the kernel reports via the /proc interface Michael Wolf
2012-08-24  4:53 ` [PATCH RFC 0/3] Add guest cpu_entitlement reporting Glauber Costa
2012-08-24 15:11   ` Michael Wolf
2012-08-25 23:36     ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-27 15:50       ` Michael Wolf
2012-08-27 18:50         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-27 20:19           ` Michael Wolf
2012-08-27 20:51             ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-27 18:55 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 20:23   ` Michael Wolf
2012-08-27 20:31     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 21:27       ` Michael Wolf
2012-08-27 21:41         ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-27 21:53           ` Michael Wolf [this message]
2012-08-27 21:52         ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-28 16:01           ` Anthony Liguori

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