From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: mtosatti@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] kvm: Growable memory slot array
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 08:21:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1354634515.1809.406.camel@bling.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121204114803.GH19514@redhat.com>
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 13:48 +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 04:39:05PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > Memory slots are currently a fixed resource with a relatively small
> > limit. When using PCI device assignment in a qemu guest it's fairly
> > easy to exhaust the number of available slots. I posted patches
> > exploring growing the number of memory slots a while ago, but it was
> > prior to caching memory slot array misses and thefore had potentially
> > poor performance. Now that we do that, Avi seemed receptive to
> > increasing the memory slot array to arbitrary lengths. I think we
> > still don't want to impose unnecessary kernel memory consumptions on
> > guests not making use of this, so I present again a growable memory
> > slot array.
> >
> > A couple notes/questions; in the previous version we had a
> > kvm_arch_flush_shadow() call when we increased the number of slots.
> > I'm not sure if this is still necessary. I had also made the x86
> > specific slot_bitmap dynamically grow as well and switch between a
> > direct bitmap and indirect pointer to a bitmap. That may have
> > contributed to needing the flush. I haven't done that yet here
> > because it seems like an unnecessary complication if we have a max
> > on the order of 512 or 1024 entries. A bit per slot isn't a lot of
> > overhead. If we want to go more, maybe we should make it switch.
> > That leads to the final question, we need an upper bound since this
> > does allow consumption of extra kernel memory, what should it be? A
> This is the most important question :) If we want to have 1000s of
> them or 100 is enough?
We can certainly hit respectable numbers of assigned devices in the
hundreds. Worst case is 8 slots per assigned device, typical case is 4
or less. So 512 slots would more or less guarantee 64 devices (we do
need some slots for actual memory), and more typically allow at least
128 devices. Philosophically, supporting a full PCI bus, 256 functions,
2048 slots, is an attractive target, but it's probably no practical.
I think on x86 a slot is 72 bytes w/ alignment padding, so a maximum of
36k @512 slots.
> Also what about changing kvm_memslots->memslots[]
> array to be "struct kvm_memory_slot *memslots[KVM_MEM_SLOTS_NUM]"? It
> will save us good amount of memory for unused slots.
I'm not following where that results in memory savings. Can you
clarify. Thanks,
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-04 15:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-03 23:39 [RFC PATCH 0/6] kvm: Growable memory slot array Alex Williamson
2012-12-03 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] kvm: Rename KVM_MEMORY_SLOTS -> KVM_USER_MEM_SLOTS Alex Williamson
2012-12-03 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] kvm: Make KVM_PRIVATE_MEM_SLOTS optional Alex Williamson
2012-12-03 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] kvm: Merge id_to_index into memslots Alex Williamson
2012-12-05 21:22 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-12-05 22:58 ` Alex Williamson
2012-12-03 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] kvm: Move private memory slots to start of memslots array Alex Williamson
2012-12-05 21:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-12-05 22:58 ` Alex Williamson
2012-12-03 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] kvm: Re-introduce memslots->nmemslots Alex Williamson
2012-12-05 21:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-12-05 23:02 ` Alex Williamson
2012-12-06 1:45 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-12-06 3:51 ` Alex Williamson
2012-12-06 23:58 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-12-06 23:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-12-07 0:07 ` Alex Williamson
2012-12-03 23:39 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] kvm: Allow memory slots to grow Alex Williamson
2012-12-04 11:48 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] kvm: Growable memory slot array Gleb Natapov
2012-12-04 15:21 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2012-12-04 15:30 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-12-04 15:39 ` Alex Williamson
2012-12-04 16:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-12-04 17:56 ` Alex Williamson
2012-12-04 14:48 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-12-04 15:26 ` Alex Williamson
2012-12-05 21:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-12-05 22:57 ` Alex Williamson
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