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From: Vadim Rozenfeld <vrozenfe@redhat.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, kvm@vger.kernel.org, pl@dlh.net
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] add support for Hyper-V invariant TSC
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 22:33:51 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1369658031.7872.32.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130524194124.GA2888@amt.cnet>

On Fri, 2013-05-24 at 16:41 -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 06:11:16AM -0400, Vadim Rozenfeld wrote:
> > > Is there a better option?
> > > 
> > If setting TscSequence to zero makes Windows fall back to the MSR this is a
> > better option.
> > 
> > +1 
> > This is why MS has two different mechanisms:
> > iTSC as a primary, reference counters as a fall-back.
> 
> Ok, is it documented that transition
> 
> iTSC valid (Sequence != 0 and != 0xFFFFFFFF) -> 
> iTSC not valid but ref MSR valid (Sequence = 0), 
> 
> is a valid transition?
> 
Yes, it's true.
> It was not obvious for me. Can you point to documentation?
> 
> 
Hypervisor Functional Specification v2.0a: For Windows Server 2008 R2
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=18673

"15.4.3.3 Reference TSC during Save/Restore and Migration
To address migration scenarios to physical platforms which do not
support iTSC, the TscSequence field is used. In the event a guest
partition is migrated from an iTSC capable host to a non-iTSC capable
host, the hypervisor sets TscSequence to the special value of 0x0, which
directs the guest operating system to fall back to a different clock
source (the virtual PM timer)."

Now what the virtual PM timer is - if hypervisor provides PM Timer
assist support (HvPartitionPropertyPmTimerAssist partition property),
it will use partition reference counters to calculate PM Timer value.
If partition has no HvPartitionPropertyPmTimerAssist - guest will use
reference counters MSR directly.
Currently we don't support PM timer assist, so TscSequence 0x0 means
fallback to reference counters.







  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-27 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-19  7:06 [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] Hyper-V timers Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-05-19  7:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] add support for Hyper-V reference time counter Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-05-19 13:47   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-19 14:37   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-22  0:46   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-22  3:28     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-22  3:32       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-22  3:38         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-22 14:31           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-22  7:32     ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-05-22 21:55       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-23  6:17         ` Peter Lieven
2013-05-23  9:54           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-23 10:45             ` Peter Lieven
2013-05-23 12:25           ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-05-23 13:18             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-23 13:20               ` Peter Lieven
2013-05-23 13:23                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-23 13:30                   ` Peter Lieven
2013-05-23 13:40                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-19  7:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] add support for Hyper-V invariant TSC Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-05-22  0:50   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-22  7:22     ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-05-22 21:23       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-23  6:18         ` Peter Lieven
2013-05-23  9:13           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23 13:35             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-23 15:14               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-24  9:57               ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-05-23 12:33           ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-05-23 12:44             ` Peter Lieven
2013-05-23 12:45               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23 12:54               ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-05-23  9:12         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-23 13:53           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-23 15:31             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-05-24 10:11               ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-05-24 19:41                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-27 12:33                   ` Vadim Rozenfeld [this message]
2013-05-23 12:21         ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-05-23 13:47           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-05-24 10:01             ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-05-23 16:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-24 10:16     ` Vadim Rozenfeld

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