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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Steve Rutherford <srutherford@google.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, ahonig@google.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/4] KVM: x86: Add EOI exit bitmap inference
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 16:35:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1431642919.3625.148.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150514221041.GA21835@google.com>

On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 15:10 -0700, Steve Rutherford wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:04:40AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 17:46 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 14/05/2015 17:23, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > > > Would irq_ack_notifiers be used at all with this patch set?  Resampling
> > > > > of IOAPIC level-triggered interrupts would be implemented in userspace.
> > > > >  For the same reason, assigned devices using legacy device assignment
> > > > > probably would not be able to use INTX (so this feature should depend on
> > > > > !KVM_DEVICE_ASSIGNMENT).  Add the emulated i8254 and the last user of
> > > > > irq_ack_notifiers goes away.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Alex, how does VFIO do INTX resampling if you're using TCG or -machine
> > > > > kernel_irqchip=off?  (Context: this series keeps the local APIC
> > > > > emulation in the kernel, thus including MSI, but moves the IOAPIC
> > > > > emualtion to userspace).
> > > > 
> > > > Without KVM irqchip, we use a rudimentary approach where we disable
> > > > mmaps to the device when an interrupt occurs.  This makes us trap all
> > > > accesses to the device.  We then handle any device access from the guest
> > > > as a potential EOI and unmask the interrupt.  If the interrupt re-fires,
> > > > we've at least rate-limited it.  If it doesn't, a timer eventually
> > > > re-enables devices mmaps.  It's not very efficient, but it works (for
> > > > both PCI and platform devices) and avoids IRQ APIs through QEMU that get
> > > > very platform/machine specific.  Thanks,
> > > 
> > > If we move the IOAPIC back to userspace, it probably would be easier to
> > > implement irqfd/resamplefd in userspace as well.  Let the bikeshedding
> > > start!
> > 
> > The current solution is merely functional with the benefit of being
> > architecture and machine-type independent.  If someone actually cared
> > about vfio assigned device performance without KVM irqchip, we'd
> > certainly need a more deterministic and efficient EOI path.  Thanks,
> > 
> > Alex
> > 
> 
> I'd like this feature to not preclude fast /modern/ device assignment
> (i.e. devices using MSIs). A perf hit (or even incompatibility) for
> legacy devices is fine [that's sort of the premise of this patchset].
> What's necessary for the device assignment to work with the split
> irqchip?

The current code will attempt to use kvm_irqchip_add_msi_route() and
kvm_irqchip_add_irqfd_notifier() to route the MSI through the KVM
irqchip.  Without that, QEMU will receive the MSI eventfd and call
msi_notify() or msix_notify(), which would be significantly slower.
This should be pretty much the same as virtio, which you've hopefully
already taken into consideration.  Thanks,

Alex


  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-14 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-13  1:47 [RFC PATCH 1/4] KVM: x86: Split the APIC from the rest of IRQCHIP Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13  1:47 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] KVM: x86: Add KVM exit for IOAPIC EOIs Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13  7:35   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-13 22:18     ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-24 16:46   ` Avi Kivity
2015-05-27  2:06     ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-27  5:32       ` Avi Kivity
2015-05-28 21:58         ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13  1:47 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] KVM: x86: Add EOI exit bitmap inference Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13  6:12   ` Jan Kiszka
2015-05-13  8:04     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-13  8:10       ` Jan Kiszka
2015-05-13  9:24         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-13 10:25           ` Jan Kiszka
2015-05-13 13:04             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-13 13:19               ` Jan Kiszka
2015-05-13 22:21       ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-15  2:38       ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13  7:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-13 22:24     ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-14  9:20       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 15:23         ` Alex Williamson
2015-05-14 15:46           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 16:04             ` Alex Williamson
2015-05-14 22:10               ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-14 22:35                 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2015-05-14 23:21                   ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13  1:47 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] KVM: x86: Add support for local interrupt requests from userspace Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13  6:12   ` Jan Kiszka
2015-05-13 22:41     ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-15 13:27       ` Jan Kiszka
2015-05-13  7:22   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-13 23:13     ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-13  7:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] KVM: x86: Split the APIC from the rest of IRQCHIP Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-13 22:10   ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-14  9:12     ` Wu, Feng
2015-05-14 19:29       ` Andrew Honig
2015-05-15  1:28         ` Wu, Feng
2015-05-15  5:03         ` Wanpeng Li
2015-05-15 18:10           ` Steve Rutherford
2015-05-18  2:11             ` Wanpeng Li

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