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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Shamir Rabinovitch <shamir.rabinovitch@oracle.com>,
	corbet@lwn.net, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] dma-mapping-common: add DMA attribute - DMA_ATTR_IOMMU_BYPASS
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 10:17:22 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1446247042.1856.106.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3880193.j0XDKyhAXH@wuerfel>

On Fri, 2015-10-30 at 11:32 +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Thursday 29 October 2015 10:10:46 Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > 
> > > Maybe we should at least coordinate IOMMU 'paranoid/fast' modes
> > > across
> > > architectures, and then the DMA_ATTR_IOMMU_BYPASS flag would have
> > > a
> > > sane meaning in the paranoid mode (and perhaps we'd want an ultra
> > > -paranoid mode where it's not honoured).
> > 
> > Possibly, though ideally that would be a user policy but of course
> > by
> > the time you get to userspace it's generally too late.
> 
> IIRC, we have an 'iommu=force' command line switch for this, to
> ensure
> that no device can use a linear mapping and everything goes th ough
> the page tables. This is often useful for both debugging and as a
> security measure when dealing with unpriviledged DMA access (virtual
> machines, vfio, ...).

That was used to force-enable the iommu on platforms like G5s where we
would otherwise only do so if the memory was larger than 32-bit but we
never implemented using it to prevent the bypass region.

> If we add a DMA_ATTR_IOMMU_BYPASS attribute, we should clearly
> document
> which osed to force-enable the iommu on HGthe two we expect to take
> priority in cases where we have a
> choice.
>
> I wonder if the 'iommu=force' attribute is too coarse-grained though,
> and if we should perhaps allow a per-device setting on architectures
> that allow this.

The interesting thing, if we can make it work, is the bypass attribute
being per mapping... 

Ben. 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-30 23:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1445789224-28032-1-git-send-email-shamir.rabinovitch@oracle.com>
     [not found] ` <1445789224-28032-2-git-send-email-shamir.rabinovitch@oracle.com>
2015-10-28  6:30   ` [PATCH v1 2/2] dma-mapping-common: add DMA attribute - DMA_ATTR_IOMMU_BYPASS David Woodhouse
2015-10-28 11:10     ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-10-28 13:31       ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-28 14:07         ` David Miller
2015-10-28 13:57           ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-29  0:23             ` David Miller
2015-10-29  0:32         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-10-29  0:42           ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-29  1:10             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-10-29 18:31               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-29 22:35                 ` David Woodhouse
2015-11-01  7:45                   ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-01 21:10                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-02  7:23                       ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-02 10:00                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-02 12:07                           ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-02 20:13                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-02 21:45                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-02 23:08                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-03 13:11                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-03 19:35                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-02 21:49                               ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-02 22:48                       ` David Woodhouse
2015-11-02 23:10                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-05 21:08                   ` David Miller
2015-10-30  1:51                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-10-30 10:32               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-30 23:17                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2015-10-30 23:24                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-02 14:51                 ` Joerg Roedel
2015-10-29  7:32             ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-02 14:44               ` Joerg Roedel
2015-11-02 17:32                 ` Shamir Rabinovitch
2015-11-05 13:42                   ` Joerg Roedel
2015-11-05 21:11                     ` David Miller
2015-11-07 15:06                       ` Shamir Rabinovitch
     [not found]                         ` <CAN+hb0UvztgwNuAh93XdJEe7vgiZgNMc9mHNziHpEopg8Oi4Mg@mail.gmail.com>
2015-11-16  8:42                           ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                             ` <CAN+hb0UWpfcS5DvgMxNjY-5JOztw2mO1r2FJAW17fn974mhxPA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-11-16 18:42                               ` Benjamin Serebrin
2015-11-16  6:56 Benjamin Serebrin

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